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Donald Marshall videos

Just want to bring up couple of good videos, which contain pretty good Donald Marshall info. Check them out:

Donald Marshall: George Lucas

Donald Marshall (Fri. December 2, 2011) – George had them light me on fire for the end of his movie Revenge of the Sith, Said he wanted Hayden Christiensen to scream realisticly, Hayden watched me listened to me scream and groan in pain and copied the sounds exactly, he knows all about it. As does Natalie Portman, and a quarter of the cast. Many directors have used me like that, in a role playing situation, cause me some kind of excruciating pain just to see what kind of squeak or screech I will make, as if I were less than a dog, then when I’m a bloody mess on the floor they crawl on my broken body and sodomize me saying something like they love me and can’t control themselves because I made all they’re favorite songs and I’m so “special”. Broken ribs bending and internal bleeding, me crying or screaming if I am able, but they just keep on going and they videotape this so they can view it again like evil pornography.

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Donald Marshall (January 2014) – They’re down with cloning,… I had to think up idea’s for both Bethesda and Lucas arts. George Lucas bothered me a lot there, thinking I was just going to die anyway. He’s gonna get it though.

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Donald Marshall (Mon. June 24, 2013) – Star Wars concept is not an original idea, George Lucas extrapolated his intrepretation of the Nostradamus prophecy to make it. Just space age setting.

Same basic storyline

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Donald Marshall (October 2012) – Vrill were accurately portrayed in the star wars movie (attack of the clones) they are ashamed of their appearance and wanted to see what people would say about them… it was George Lucas’s was of informing on them without informing, and without being killed.

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Donald Marshall (October 2012) – George Lucas was told the long necked trolls wanted to be in a movie…. He put them in star wars attack of the clones. Kaminoans. Google image. Exact depiction.

http://i1363.photobucket.com/…/As…/kaminoans_zpskzbxhaxs.jpg

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Donald Marshall (October 2012) – Vrill were accurately portrayed in the star wars movie (attack of the clones) they are ashamed of their appearance and wanted to see what people would say about them… it was George Lucas’s was of informing on them without informing, and without being killed.

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Question (November 2012) – You said Peter Jackson went to the Cloning Centre? This creepy guy let 27 horses die in the making of the Hobbit… What is he like at the Centre?

Donald Marshall – He acts like he’s a lord of the land and untouchable… george lucas and steven speilberg do too… all the rich ones do, until a politically powerful person talks down to them and then they hush up and look to the floor.

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Donald Marshall (Tue. June 18, 2013) – They wanted to be seen in the movie Star Wars “attack of the clones” to gauge public opinion on their appearance… they used the best looking younger vrill type they could copy from.

Kaminoans they are called in the movie… they run a cloning operation in the movie LMAO!!!

George Lucas and the others at the clone zone were only too happy to put them in the movie… to identify them in future somehow…

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Donald Marshall (April 2013) – they make the cartoon the clone wars… disney just bought the rights to star wars from george lucas, who also has a clone attends

all the biggest people in hollywood,… many are host…parasite hosts os lizards

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Donald Marshall: Muammar Gaddafi

Donald Marshall (Wed. July 24, 2013) – Moammar Ghaddafi was and IS STILL an illuminati puppet. But the Rebel leadership in Libya was ALSO illuminati run, just in case they need to replace Ghaddafi. So the illuminasty didn’t really care too much about Moammar getting ousted in Libya,… they just slip a new puppet on the hand after he’s gone and continue to run Libya how they want.

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Donald Marshall (Fri. April 5, 2013) – Moammar Ghaddafi and Saddam Hussein were both dictators.

thats why they called Ghadaffi Colonel Ghadaffi because he and the army conducted a coup (military takeover) overthrowing the Shah of Libya at the time,… so in the interim until things settled down Colonel Ghadaffi had total say because of some law, and stayed colonel, disbanded the army and just stayed colonel like 40 years lol

Ghaddafi isn’t even dead, that was a clone they showed killed on the video, whole thing was set up.

Syro De-j – Donald have you got more info on this??? Ghaddafi isn’t even dead, that was a clone they showed killed on the video, whole thing was set up.

I have always felt this was the case, but cannot find info on it. Cheers brother

Donald Marshall – That’s because there is no info on it it’s supposed to be a secret lol

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Michael J Kahnke (January 2014) – Hey, Donald Marshall.

Can you tell us a story about ‘Uncle Mo’? It turns out he had a Rape Station in his home where he traumatized 14-year-olds into being Sex Slaves. Apparently, he was no ‘Holy Dweller in Tents’.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/…/Uncovered-The-macabre-sex-cham… Uncovered: The macabre sex chamber of Libya’s Colonel Gaddafi where he raped girls – and boys – as young as 14

Donald Marshall – he’s still alive… that was a clone they killed… everyone that captured him were in on it… it was a big stageplay and he had his pain sensors turned off… you’ll never find the body. that kind of clone decomposes differently than a normal human body and then the farce would be known.

Talked to Moammar lot’s of times, since I was 5. He used to sit there and watch me make songs. He had lots of stuff underground. he supposedly had his own private cloning center over there… they’re not going to put that in the news though…

Moammar Ghaddafi used to pretend to be my friend there when I was a kid, only to make me the brunt of a or make himself look “cool” in some way… celebs thought I was some sort of freak with all the songs and ideas, right/ They wanted to watch me, see how I talk and Moammar would want to be in their feild of vision… because not too many of them want to talk to or look at him…lol

So i’d open my eyes as a kid and be in some car garage, and he wanted to show me all of his cars n shit… and theres 2 thugs and a cameraman there recording… the clones at the main cloning center wanted to watch to see what I thought of the cars…. and Moammar was only too happy to be in the camera frame…

they would all do that…. like… show off through me… then, they’re telling me all about their nefarious exploits in the world they’ve done… creepy things done to people and situations… just to show off for all the others there… and they tried to top each other like a contest lol…

Michael J Kahnke – So, the ‘takedown’ of Libya appeared to consist of a bunch of CIA-Alqueda operatives. From what little I read it looked like a systematic takedown with LOTS of foreign involvement. At some point, Ghaddafi’s departure was planned and executed, with Libya’s independent banking system destroyed. It looks like he cut a deal.

Donald Marshall – he did. supposed to be somewhere in Gaza now.

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Donald Marshall (Sun. November 11, 2012) – Moammar Ghaddafi is there too,…smelliest clone I have ever encountered

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Astral Light – Don talks about Gadaffi at 32:04 – 32:38 in the video below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh2u9x1E_To Donald Marshall’s First Interview

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Donald Marshall: It’s all coming together nicely,… all comes clean in the wash.

Donald Marshall (October 2012) – Elizabeth asking me how she will be spared… prime evils there looking for a way out… a contingency plan… they were certan I would sugarcoat,… and decieve the world… masquerade as Jesus in this master plan of theirs… I said I would,… then got my memory unrepressed and betrayed hard…🙂 🙂

All it takes is a push of a button on computer at the cloning center to unrepress your memory, and depending on how much content they sometimes have to gradually give you the back memories or you go nutsy. they WANTED me to expose vrill n drones… and cloning… but wanted to not kill all vrill n drones or shut down all cloning centers and sugarcoat events that transpire there… play the savior but help them run the world from a “shadow seat” in the stands of the cloning center, where the same stuff would happen but world would look to me as savior n stuff… they wanted to go along with prophecies and use me to control the population somewhat and try to institute rules they want and like be a religious figurehead…. now \i had been memory repressed for like 25 years since age 5 and really wanted to get out and get help, get it all stopped… contd—> they could somehow tell what your thinking sometimes,… they truth serum ya and scan yer brain with tech… now after watching murders and kids dyin eaten n stuff I knew I HAD to find a way… was imperative… but they knew how to get the truth… so kind of like stockholme syndrome, (love your captors) I had to half convince myself that I liked them, the organization and world leaders were my friends and surrogate family… I had to convince myself of this, (and it was difficult) because they test you so much to see if youll talk,… they dont care if you do its just they dont want to have to kill you… SO singing to them, slappin 5 with Moammar Ghaddafi there… all of them… I held them in awe with the songmaking ability,… I had to devise a way… cuz no one escapes… but I would find a way… cont’d—>they didnt want to kill me, they wanted to use me for their plan… but they wanted me IN on the plan… they wanted no complications…. SO was so monotonous… tested nightly for a while… had to psychologically convince myself they were my surrogate family… fool myself almost like… was the only way… they unrepressed my memory… I got smarter in real life and as a clone there… the memory repression was like sapping my intelligence by like 20-25%… they call it an awakening… doesn’t actually make u smarter, just gives you back smarts that are like withheld… think faster and clearer… before I had a haze on my brain that I thought everyone had… was there all the time so just was normal to me… haze is gone now… thats how it works. so found out all i needed to know, what it was who was in charge who ran stuff techs they had… \i’m like the worst curious george… when I figured I knew all neccessary info I let it loose… but didnt know where to go… beginning sucked… they were ready… only thing they dont have is internet… and theyre workin on that… they talk about anything and everything… see Brad Pitt is there…. Madonna is there…. and just about any super celeb u can think of is there… SO also the politicians are there, biggest world leaders…. this is where it went way haywire… politicians showing off power to pretty celebs… allowing celebs to add their political 2 cents worth… celeb feels smart, semi worldly powerful… and the politicians get to help make movie lines ideas and sometimes lines in songs… and feel “cool” like a celeb…. well it progressed… they upped the ante… oh its “cool” to be evil… oh he is way more evil than him… oh he’s way evil look what he just did,… oh ya think THATS evil? look what I just did…. but i messed the plan up. they wanted to avoid prosecution… blame lizards n drones. kill off a few clones of “evil” world leaders to make it look good to the public, blow up a “few” cloning centers and have same status quo BUT have a Jesus savior like figure to play religious figurehead and have me help them assert more control over the “ignorant masses” lol I could NEVER do that… death first. but i told them I would… they believed me wholeheartedly… i was desperate to escape,… I was so convincing… serenading Elizabeth the cannibal demon queen, like I loved her… I convinced myself… acted well… the world was depending on me,… it was so movie like feeling… like judgement day… From an early age I felt like I had a secret mission from God to infiltrate them accumulate information and destroy them from the inside out… everyone was scared… played evil… it was obvious… and it was because of Vrill. n drones… whoever was evil went far in life… so they all went super evil… and the lucifer stuff was like a stupid taboo club… oooh against the church oooh…. it was more taboo years ago when the church was more popular… now with finding out cannibalism gives u human equivalent of mad cows disease and inbreeding makes yer gene pool damaged they know lucifer stuff is all lies… lucifarian stuff sez cannibalism n inbreeding makes you powerful… killing n raping kids too… killing your own firstborn son in a ritual sacrifice… they know its all lies… they fear real God now…. recently said they realise their mistake… with prophecies and stuff… they said they didnt realize it but they are the fornicators mentioned in the Bible… and with all the metaphors in prophecies and stuff (there are a lot) they say they are afraid of actually going to whatever the lake of fire is… they fear the end of the world,… and Elizabeth fears a terrible end… sez her n Phillip get it bad… mentions them by name n everything… the great duke , even sez phillips name… and the harlot being Elizabeth,… her and her corrupted lords of filth and perversion n stuff… so NOW they wanna give up Vrill and come clean but they dont wanna get killed themselves… people been hinting about the parasites n stuff in movies n song your whole life… hoping someday it’d be cleaned up. Secret of Vrill is no longer a secret… It’s all coming together nicely,… all comes clean in the wash.

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Get Your Own Clone Today

Advances in knowledge and related developments in the procedures of molecular biology, genetics and artificial fertilization have long made it possible to experiment with and successfully achieve the cloning of plants and animals.

Since the ’30s experiments have been made in producing identical individuals by artificial twin splitting, a procedure which can be improperly called cloning.

The practice of twin splitting in the zootechnical field has been spreading in experimental barns as an incentive to the multiple production of select exemplars.

In 1993 Jerry Hall and Robert Stilmann of George Washington University published data concerning the twin splitting they performed on human embryos of two, four and eight embryoblasts. These experiments were conducted without the prior consent of the appropriate Ethics Committee and were published, according to the authors, in order to stimulate the ethical debate.

The news published in the journal Nature, 27 February 1997, about the birth of the sheep Dolly through the efforts of the Scottish scientists Jan Vilmut and K.H.S. Campbell and their team at Edinburgh’s Roslin Institute, however, had an unusual effect on public opinion and led to statements being issued by committees and national and international authorities: this happened because it was something new and was considered troubling.

There are two new aspects of this event. The first is that it is not a question of splitting but of a radical innovation defined as cloning, that is, an asexual and agamic reproduction meant to produce individuals biologically identical to the adult which provided the nuclear genetic inheritance. The second is that until now this type of true and proper cloning was considered impossible. It was thought that the DNA in the somatic cells of the higher forms of animal life, having already undergone the imprinting of differentiation, could no longer recover their original totipotentiality and, consequently, their ability to direct the development of a new individual.

With the overcoming of this supposed impossibility, the way now seems open to human cloning, understood as the replication of one or more individuals somatically identical to the donor.

The event has rightly caused concern and alarm. But after an initial phase of unanimous opposition, some have wished to call attention to the need for guaranteeing freedom of research, for not demonizing progress. The prediction has even been made that the Catholic Church herself will one day accept cloning.

Now that some time has passed, it would be useful in a more detached way to examine closely the fact that has been noted as a disturbing event.

THE BIOLOGICAL FACTS

In its biological aspects as a form of artificial reproduction, cloning is achieved without the contribution of two gametes; therefore it is an asexual and agamic reproduction. Fertilization properly so-called is replaced by the “fusion” of a nucleus taken from a somatic cell of the individual one wishes to clone, or of the somatic cell itself, with an oocyte from which the nucleus has been removed, that is, an oocyte lacking the maternal genome. Since the nucleus of the somatic cell contains the whole genetic inheritance, the individual obtained possesses—except for possible alterations—the genetic identity of the nucleus’ donor. It is this essential genetic correspondence with the donor that produces in the new individual the somatic replica or copy of the donor itself.

The Edinburgh event occurred after 277 oocyte-donor nucleus fusions: only eight were successful, that is, only eight of the 277 started to develop as embryos and only one of these eight embryos reached birth: the lamb called Dolly.

Many doubts and questions remain about quite a few aspects of the experiment: for example, the possibility that among the 277 donor cells used there were some “staminals”, that is, cells endowed with a not totally differentiated genome; the role that could have been played by possibly residual mitochondrial DNA in the maternal ovum; and many other questions which the researchers, unfortunately, did not even attempt to address. However, it is still an event that goes beyond the forms of artificial fertilization known until now, which have always been performed by using two gametes.

It should be stressed that the development of individuals obtained by cloning, apart from eventual possible mutations—and there could be many—should produce a body structure very similar to that of the DNA donor: this is the most disturbing result, especially when the experiment is applied to the human species.

It should be noted however that, should the extension of cloning to the human species be desired, this duplication of body structure does not necessarily imply a perfectly identical person, understood in his ontological and psychological reality. The spiritual soul, which is the essential constituent of every subject belonging to the human species and is created directly by God, cannot be generated by the parents, produced by artificial fertilization or cloned. Furthermore, psychological development, culture and environment always lead to different personalities; this is a well-known fact even among twins, whose resemblance does not mean identity. The popular image or aura of omnipotence that accompanies cloning should at least be put into perspective.

Despite this impossibility of involving the spirit, which is the source of personality, the thought of human cloning has already led to the imagining of hypothetical cases inspired by the desire for omnipotence: duplicating individuals endowed with exceptional talent and beauty; reproducing the image of departed loved ones; selecting healthy individuals immune from genetic diseases; the possibility of choosing a person’s sex; producing selected frozen embryos to be transferred in utero at a later time to provide spare organs, etc.

By regarding these hypothetical cases as science fiction, proposals can soon be advanced for cloning considered “reasonable” or “compassionate”: the procreation of a child in a family whose father suffers from aspermia or to replace the dying child of a widowed mother; one could say that these cases have nothing to do with the fantasies of science fiction.

But what would be the anthropological significance of this activity in the deplorable prospect of applying it to man?

ETHICAL PROBLEMS
CONNECTED WITH HUMAN CLONING

Human cloning belongs to the eugenics project and is thus subject to all the ethical and juridical observations that have amply condemned it. As Hans Jonas has already written, it is both in method the most despotic and in aim the most slavish form of genetic manipulation; its objective is not an arbitrary modification of the hereditary material but precisely its equally arbitrary fixationin contrast to the dominant strategy of nature.

It represents a radical manipulation of the constitutive relationality and complementarity which is at the origin of human procreation in both its biological and strictly personal aspects. It tends to make bisexuality a purely functional left-over, given that an ovum must be used without its nucleus in order to make roomfor the clone-embryo and requires, for now, a female womb so that its development may be brought to term. This is how all the experimental procedures in zootechny are being conducted, thus changing the specific meaning of human reproduction.

In this vision we find the logic of industrial production: market research must be explored and promoted, experimentation refined, ever newer models produced.

Women are radically exploited and reduced to a few of their purely biological functions (providing ova and womb) and research looks to the possibility of constructing artificial wombs, the last step to fabricating human beings in the laboratory.

In the cloning process the basic relationships of the human person are perverted: filiation, consanguinity, kinship, parenthood. A woman can be the twin sister of her mother, lack a biological father and be the daughter of her grandfather. In vitro fertilization has already led to the confusion of parentage, but cloning will mean the radical rupture of these bonds.

As in every artificial activity, what occurs in nature is “mimicked” and “imitated”, but only at the price of ignoring how man surpasses his biological component, which moreover is reduced to those forms of reproduction that have characterized only the biologically simplest and least evolved organisms.

The idea is fostered that some individuals can have total dominion over the existence of others, to the point of programming their biological identity—selected according to arbitrary or purely utilitarian criteria—which, although not exhausting man’s personal identity, which is characterized by the spirit, is a constitutive part of it. This selective concept of man will have, among other things, a heavy cultural fallout beyond the—numerically limited—practice of cloning, since there will be a growing conviction that the value of man and woman does not depend on their personal identity but only on those biological qualities that can be appraised and therefore selected.

Human cloning must also be judged negative with regard to the dignity of the person cloned, who enters the world by virtue of being the “copy” (even if only a biological copy) of another being: this practice paves the way to the clone’s radical suffering, for his psychic identity is jeopardized by the real or even by the merely virtual presence of his “other”. Nor can we suppose that a conspiracy of silence will prevail, a conspiracy which, as Jonas already noted, would be impossible and equally immoral: since the “clone” was produced because he resembles someone who was “worthwhile” cloning, he will be the object of no less fateful expectations and attention, which will constitute a true and proper attack on his personal subjectivity.

If the human cloning project intends to stop “before” implantation in the womb, trying to avoid at least some of the consequences we have just indicated, it appears equally unjust from the moral standpoint.

A prohibition of cloning which would be limited to preventing the birth of a cloned child, but which would still permit the cloning of an embryo-foetus, would involve experimentation on embryos and foetuses and would require their suppression before birth—a cruel, exploitative way of treating human beings.

In any case, such experimentation is immoral because it involves the arbitrary use of the human body (by now decidedly regarded as a machine composed of parts) as a mere research tool. The human body is an integral part of every individual’s dignity and personal identity, and it is not permissible to use women as a source of ova for conducting cloning experiments.

It is immoral because even in the case of a clone, we are in the presence of a “man”, although in the embryonic stage.

All the moral reasons which led to the condemnation of in vitrofertilization as such and to the radical censure of in vitro fertilization for merely experimental purposes must also be applied to human cloning.

The “human cloning” project represents the terrible aberration to which value-free science is driven and is a sign of the profound malaise of our civilization, which looks to science, technology and the “quality of life” as surrogates for the meaning of life and its salvation.

The proclamation of the “death of God”, in the vain hope of a “superman”, produces an unmistakable result: the “death of man”. It cannot be forgotten that the denial of man’s creaturely status, far from exalting human freedom, in fact creates new forms of slavery, discrimination and profound suffering. Cloning risks being the tragic parody of God’s omnipotence. Man, to whom God has entrusted the created world, giving him freedom and intelligence, finds no limits to his action dictated solely by practical impossibility: he himself must learn how to set these limits by discerning good and evil. Once again man is asked to choose: it is his responsibility to decide whether to transform technology into a tool of liberation or to become its slave by introducing new forms of violence and suffering.

The difference should again be pointed out between the conception of life as a gift of love and the view of the human being as an industrial product.

Halting the human cloning project is a moral duty which must also be translated into cultural, social and legislative terms. The progress of scientific research is not the same as the rise of scientistic despotism, which today seems to be replacing the old ideologies. In a democratic, pluralistic system, the first guarantee of each individual’s freedom is established by unconditionally respecting human dignity at every phase of life, regardless of the intellectual or physical abilities one possesses or lacks. In human cloning the necessary condition for any society begins to collapse: that of treating man always and everywhere as an end, as a value, and never as a mere means or simple object.

HUMAN RIGHTS
AND FREEDOM OF RESEARCH

At the level of human rights, the possibility of human cloning represents a violation of the two fundamental principles on which all human rights are based: the principle of equality among human beings and the principle of non-discrimination.

Contrary to what may appear at first sight, the principle of parity and equality among human beings is violated by this possible form of man’s domination over man, and the discrimination comes about through the whole selective-eugenic dimension inherent in the logic of cloning. The Resolution of the European Parliament (12 March 1997) expressly states the violation of these two principles and forcefully appeals for the prohibition of human cloning and for the value of the dignity of the human person. Since 1983 the European Parliament and all the laws passed to legalize artificial procreation, even the most permissive, have always forbidden human cloning. It should be recalled that the Church’s Magisterium has condemned the possibility of human cloning, twin fission and parthenogenesis in the 1987 Instruction Donum vitae. The basic reasons for the inhuman nature of possible human cloning are not because it is an extreme form of artificial procreation in comparison to other legally approved forms, such as in vitro fertilization, etc.

As we have said, the reason for its rejection is that it denies the dignity of the person subjected to cloning and the dignity of human procreation.

The most urgent need now seems to be that of re-establishing the harmony between the demands of scientific research and indispensable human values. The scientist cannot regard the moral rejection of human cloning as a humiliation; on the contrary, this prohibition eliminates the demiurgic degeneration of research by restoring its dignity. The dignity of scientific research consists in the fact that it is one of the richest resources for humanity’s welfare.

Moreover, there is a place for research, including cloning, in the vegetable and animal kingdoms, wherever it answers a need or provides a significant benefit for man or for other living beings, provided that the rules for protecting the animal itself and the obligation to respect the biodiversity of species are observed.

When scientific research in man’s interest aims to cure diseases, to relieve suffering, to solve problems due to malnutrition, to make better use of the earth’s resources, it represents a hope for humanity, entrusted to the talent and efforts of scientists.

To enable biomedical science to maintain and strengthen its relationship with the true welfare of man and society, it is necessary to foster, as the Holy Father recalls in the Encyclical Evangelium vitae, a “contemplative outlook” on man himself and the world, with a vision of reality as God’s creation and in a context of solidarity between science, the good of the person and of society.

“It is the outlook of those who see life in its deeper meaning, who grasp its utter gratuitousness, its beauty and its invitation to freedom and responsibility. It is the outlook of those who do not presume to take possession of reality but instead accept it as a gift, discovering in all things the reflection of the Creator and seeing in every person his living image”

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Clone centers operate 24/7

Pretty much sums it up:

“Clone centers operate 24/7, people get activated and deactivated all the time.

They have rooms set up, decorated differently, some are simple, bare concrete walls.When in storage and not being used, the clones are stored on racks like stainless steel bunk beds set into the walls underneath or on the same level.

While on the racks they have a feeding tube that goes down the throat, it has beige tasteless nutritional supplement like Ensure or Boost milkshakes. Without solid food, the clone bodies feel cramped up and sick after a while and even though they’ll only use this REM driven mark 2 clone for a few months, they still eat solid food sometimes.Surprisingly enough, most eat french fries and hot dogs… They have french fry cooking kiosks under the stands, that they sometimes have operating, and with the hot dogs it’s just that they’re quick and easy and cheap. They have a large amount of hot dogs.

Even celebs that would never eat a hot dog, they still eat them sometimes there as clones… just to fill their gut, the clone they are in, will be replaced there in a few months anyway….
They have eaten lots of stuff… children being one.

Celebs don’t get hurt there unless they threaten to talk or attempt to blackmail.

There are low and high level people there.A worker class.Slaves and victimizers.

There is a couple real people in the main control room, but u can’t get to them…They can de-activate all clones on the floor at the same time with the push of a button.

All the clones there have a variety of implants installed.

They can turn the pain receptors in a clone body on or off….the scale is 0 (numb) to 10 full pain…. but they can crank it to 25 if they want, higher than the normal threshold for human pain.
They can that with pleasure sensors too…becomes painful with the pleasure sensors locked on.It’s all done through an implant that every clone has.Advanced technology.

They can also single out a clone and push a button to electrify them until they light on fire and burn to cinders if they want…. lots of remote controlled features.

When the real body wakes up,their clone deactivates and drops to the floor.” ⬇️

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Donald Marshall: They torture people for sport

This whole cloning center thing is sick to the core and Donald Marshall tells you everything about it…

Donald Marshall – They torture people for sport rape them and molest and rape and torture children for sport….for a maccabre spectacle of death.

They have a bunch of kids buried out at the cloning center, all mummified lookin like those gold foiled roasted babies but no gold foil, and they did these Satanic rituals on them as they died and buried them in the dirt in the center arena dirt there, and I also wanted to get them dug up and proper burial, because they got the worst burial ever.

They do beastiality stuff there too… on kid clones and they sit around and watch…. whole thing is unbelievably sick… and they’ve only gotten worse and worse in depravity.” It’s off the scale of perversion… Phillip and Elizabeth like to strangle children… Cloned and real… That’s what they used to do with the native children that dissapeared… Would strangle them and watch them die… Sometimes Phillip would crush their testicles in his other hand while he choked the kid… Kid tied up… And when you say that sounds unbelievablle and how could someone do that…I have to say I don’t know why they did and do this…

They clone children and have dogs have sex with them while they masturbate in the stands.Yeah I said masturbate…

Foster care kids get victimized at cloning a lot… wards of the court, group home kids…

When they rape a child they feel as if they’ve achieved a victory somehow over someone,..(the child) and get. A sense of power from it, knowing that they won’t be caught for it because it will be covered up… Some of them go on drugs and kill the child afterwards because its some caveman thing,… Get rid of the evidence, sense of power not getting caught for childrape murder… Also…

When a Vrill lizard drones someone making the human it;s host, sometimes the penis ceases to develop from that point… And the drone is stuck with 12 year old junk for life… And say they need to as the parts fit… And drones are naturally predisposed to molesting children,… Its very wierd.

Mostly it’s just some of these losers are fat ugly and would have a difficult time getting a prostitute to agree being that old ugly and retarded… Also they don’t want to. Pay for it,… They want to feel like they’ve done something wrong and got away with it… And kids cant fight back and are scared more easily. Also sometimes the molester was molested themselves as a child by their own parents… And they keep the “tradition” going to make themselves believe it’s just a normal part of life… Their parents weren’t perverts lol they were just normal, its a normal lifestyle lol. Some families add religion to the mix to make it look as if they HAVE to molest their children in a religious secret tradition… Germans call it Frauderlaine, or something similar… Keeps the cycle going…

At the zone…Theyre blabbin at me like I’m the diddler police,… As clones out there… Why can’t I have sex with my son or daughter Donny? My child is my personal property and no one can tell me what I can and can’t do with my own child if I want to ((they say))). So I told them it’s gross this n that and they act all insulted and attack,… Then new clone, back to the monotonous absurd talking… If I stay silent they just attack…saying “dont ignore us Donny, don’t ignore us!”. Fat old man bald ugly as hell flailing his arms on my face while my clone is paralyzed in the dirt of the arena…

I said why are you asking me? They just have nothing to do or say out there…. Its basically a child molester factory, they keep the premise of oh Donny is going to get us all to have something to talk about besides assembly line child molesting… BECAUSE as clones at first its interesting, turn your pain sensors off and get your arm chopped off and no pain, staring at the stump whoah thats gross, They jump off of heights clone dies and they transfer into the next clone and theyre like whoah thats neat… Swordfight and dont die, occasional clone sex with a celebrity that just doesnt care, it loses the novelty after a very short time… AND then theres the child molesting… And the senior citizens there that KNOW no one wants to have sex with them,… So they spend most of their time there trying to look powerful scary deadly and scare children into never saying no…

People pretend they are hostages out there… Parents… So their kids wont think theyre just perverts… And the parents can secretly trade their kids around for other kids from other people there,… Grossest stuff you’ve ever seen or heard of ever… The league of incredible losers. Incredibly yuck. Worse than you can imagine… And they all sit around and watch these encounters from the stands,… Like theatre… Molestation theatre, pain theatre, death theatre… They all try to act unified. LOL. They don’t even hang with each other in real life, too embarrassed of their behavior there and ashamed lol, but theere while clones they all act like they’re friends… And they’re in power club together, theyre “powerful” hyuck. It is that degree of loserdom and worse…

Every once in a while a kid will be defiant and say he or she doesnt want to engage in the repulsive stuff… Other kids agree, it’s almost a mini mutiny at the cloning center… So while some ids are memory repressed about the clone center times, people like Elizabeth and Charles get the kid killed in some way… And then say at the cloning center, “look what happened to him”. Then the kids dont say anything out of fear, sometimes they show the kids murder on video to scare the kids there into compliance.

Sometimes someone will say they dont want to participate or doesnt want their daughter or son messed with and they want out,… Others agree,… They will start to degrade the ringleaders life in any way possible to discourage others from talking that way… Bring him back for private mental manipulation therapy as clones… Weasel into his and his wifes life in any way possible, get them fired, Impersonate them as clones to the rest of their family members and turn them against them in dramatic ways. Get them fired from their jobs, and privately will continue to bring the kid there and mess that kid up bad, causing the kid to act erratic in real body and not know why (memory suppressed about clone time) Give them childrens aid trouble if possible, anything and everything, and they videotape what they do,… And show others there, look this guy wanted out…. Then Elizabeth says in an official voice, we are worse than the Italian mafia and you dont leave the Italian mafia… Its the goofiest thing. But every once in a while they feel the need to make a new example of someone… When people talk about it they get killed or rendered mentally disabled remotely… I’m amazed I’m still alive actually.

Illuminati = league of extraordinary child molesters… So much happening at the cloning center now and things said it would be a long time relating it all… bunch of people want to leave, but don’t want to lose their jobs or be mentally manipulated for the insult of leaving… only people that want to keep the place going are old ugly fat people, the mentally handicapped massively inbred people and the scuzziest perverts… most want out… old rich people threatening and scaring people there into compliance… it is quite the scene.

Many many sex slaves sold out by their parents in exchange for their parents to get access to other children, and theyre usually not tortured, theyve been shown footage of me getting tortured as a deterrent from protesting, Many people used for talents, they clone businessmen steal theyre ideas inventors anything, beat the ideas out of them and leave them memory suppressed. If they ever start to kick up a fuss theyre killed. The whole place is held together by old fat ugly perverts… no one except greedy people and perverts WANT to go to the cloning center… and even the parents play that theyre scared hostages in front of their children sometimes, so they can play games on kids,… like get filthy with this man or we will kill your mother, or something like that,… its all they do, torture people they dont like and bang children and each other while doing crazy drugs, they dont care about privacy they just do it in the dirt in front of everyone, it lowers the inhibitions of everyone there.

Children they bring there need a familiar face to talk to or all they do is scream and cry, that is where Joy Geizer comes in, she is married to my half brother from my fathers first marraige, Joy Geizer is a girl guide leader and when they clone in girl guides she speaks to them keeps them calm and pretty much pimps them for free, knowing the children will have they’re memories repressed and will not talk about it in real life, all the Geizers are in this stuff, many people that could also be polygraph tested, (Independent polygraph testers) because the police testers in my City of Halifax Nova Scotia are compromised, they cover up for child molesters, as I said commissionaires and C.S.I.S are heavily involved. All it will take is a few lie detector tests to prove these things. I will take them, and demand my mother and step father submit to them as well, it would be as easy as that. They’ve told me they won’t even attempt to lie on a polygraph.

[Queen] Elizabeth has the children there call her “lillibet” and does ungodly things to them, some she fakes being nice to, some she is terrible to, cutting them with swords while they scream, the decent people that are there against their will are afraid to say anything against them, most have their children there as a kind of hostage, to be torn apart if they even think of informing anyone

It doesn’t matter who you are, If you have a cute child or a child with a moneymaking ability (like song making) they will clone your child, and molest them, it’s a pedophiles paradise and must be stopped.

Do nothing and allow them to continue to clone your children and sisters and wives sons, causing them to have learning disabilities unexplained depression and suicidal thoughts all kinds of side effects.

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Donald Marshall: Draconians and nephilims

Some info about draconians and nephilims from Donald Marshall:

Donald Marshall – nephelim are trying to show off and compliment me…draconians are doing the same they hate each other…shits weirder than ever i said i hate em both and wheres the fuckin AK!?!? nephelim and draconians dont get the chance to talk there much… because…merely the sight of them takes years off peoples lives just looking at them as rem clones temporarily… they want me to choose a side… I said neither… I’m human pro human…they said I’m savior…

they said I’m their savior too?!?!?!?!? theyre mad that I dont care about them they said they always thought since i was a kid that I’d find a way…there is no way they kill humans sometimes on impulse….they want to peacefully co-exist with humans…but they eat humans…they said they’d give that up but I just dont trust em. theyre acting nice theyre NOT NICE IT IS A DECEPTION AND ALWAYS WILL BE!!! I offered isolation and quarantine underground. they accepted but they want humans to give them STUFF REGULARLY!!1 and they have humans down there…whiCH i actually demand be released even if theyre permanently retarded or something by now…I will not leave them there…I can’t plug the holes and leave humans down there…aliens got abreeding program down there… body farm… can’t have that…for some unknown reason… I have some authority with them…I AM NOT DOWN WITH THEM…they will surrender they have to stay in the dark… sun blinds em. theyre all built for underground. theyd have to be seen and known about…on tv and like real tv no greenscreen stuff. examine some dead ones. people will know they are real…no fake pluggin holes n never see them…people will question that and i’m not wanting to be doubted…so gonna have to see some ugly things… theyre gonna talk… people are gonna have heart attacks all over the world. just to see the horrifying things on tv and be shown their bodily functions…like parasitical takeover…thats gonna make people some mad………

nephelim and draconians want me to like them they are fighting for my attention and insulting each other… trying to make me prefer one of them over the other…i am pro human. against suffering and cruelty… but these things are at the same rank as dogs and cats to me…just thiking of that last time there… with the things kissing and hugging me… i’m sweating ALL OVEr…it’s so disturbing to see these things talk to you…youd think they couldnt talk… but then… we love you… why do you hate us Don? with nephelim and draconians around all the people in the stands are more scared and act crazier and more frantic…

the nephelim and dracos are very real. they killed clones of me, allowed me to examine them… lol they were embarrassed to be naked.

Brook Doyle – is that interesting or does it make your stomach turn?

Donald Marshall – both they showed me their physical traits everything they will let me win. its weird. OH AND LET’S NOT FORGET, I have also as clones have had to talk to the Draconians… and I must admit, that messed me up too… they like me more than the Nephelim… and Draconians and Nephelim hate each other. they have natural biological functions to counter each other… like they were evolved to always hate each other…and even as scary looking as nephelim are… especially adult ones, able bodied… Draconians are 10 times scarier looking. they have fought they were both always there.

Hippie Lovegods – several factions within Draconians too ?

Donald Marshall – Most want me to have the say…Unsure, I think Draconians are united. nephelim too.

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Donald Marshall: UFC

Something info about UFC by Illuminati cloned Donald Marshall:

Steven P. Nuxoll (May 2014) – Of all the UFC and MMA types, which if any are seen at all at the cc.?

Donald Marshall – so many and I dont want to list the long list as they will bother me next time I am there…

Dana White goes… he brings them there for toughness training, they smash each other with battering rams and destroy clones of each other thinking it will give them an edge in real bodies.

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Jay Deutsch (June 2014) – D you mentioned a while back that Dana White attends and takes some fighters too. Does Dana do fucked up shit? And what fighters have u seen?

Donald Marshall – yes, and many fighters, nearly all the top ones… surprisingly Matt Hughes ex UFC champion is the scummiest of them all… I was surprised as he “looks” like he’d be a nice guy…

you can’t tell by looks…

especially not in a cloning crisis OR a bodysnatching scenario crisis… of which Earth has both.

Tim Silvia, ex UFC world champion is supposed to be some remade clone of some large person from the past… different kind of cloning, from a baby up…

and he’s a scumbag too.

I can tell you about it…

i hate that guy bad,… now I’m thinking about it again…. thing is… he’s got whatcha call “has been syndrome”

you see he won his welterweight title on a technicality… both he and his opponent were knocked out and he just woke up first… lol

Jay Deutsch – Frank Mir broke his arm…how bout frank? GSP?

Donald Marshall – both there.

wouldn’t attack me, thought it was too dishonorable.

Russians wanted Brock Lesnar removed from UFC and MMA

they have some guy last name Fedor (sp)? and they wanted to promotehim, but Brock crushed him at cloning with relative ease.

Jay Deutsch – How bout the Diaz brothers

Donald Marshall – yes.

Nates pretty mean… made fun of me called me a slave.

Jay Deutsch – Lesnar was weak, didnt like getting hit. Junior dos santos destroyed him

Donald Marshall – his younger brother tried to be mean to me like his older brother but couldn’t and actually cried in pity for me.

it was the edge of a glove that tore his face… but true, brock didn’t like getting hit in the face.

Illuminati said they messed with his pituitary gland at some point to make him bigger.

Jay Deutsch – Nick is oldest, i cant believe those two especially can keep the secret

Donald Marshall – if they don’t they die.

easy as that pretty much.

also, they might know about cloning… but not know about vrill and hosts…

Jay Deutsch – Wow, crazy

Donald Marshall – they don’t tell everyone that part.

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Billy Sweeney (August 2014) – By the way don I got a quick question if you don’t mind

Who’s the best celebrity fighter you’ve ever known or seen at cloning?

Donald Marshall – Of celebs. Besides UFC fighters at hand to hand. Marshall Mathers (Eminem) the rapper. Good sword duelist.

Billy Sweeney – Really? I wouldn’t have expected that, that’s real interesting, I wonder if it’s because he had a shitty life when he was growing up

Maybe that made him tough

Donald Marshall – No, he saw me sword fighting with katana and took lessons from japanese experts. He’s good at it. Equal to me.

Billy Sweeney – Ahhh I see, well em definitely wasnt the answer I was expecting, I guess I was maybe expecting someone like 50 cent or Mark whalberg or someone with that tough image

Donald Marshall – I got free lessons from the worlds best for 30 years.

Nope. They don’t duel.

Billy Sweeney – Are there also hand to hand duels or fights that are held at cloning?

Donald Marshall – Yes, a lot. Brock Lesnar is the brute. But he don’t fight aliens. I do.

Billy Sweeney – I’d imagine that’s just because of his ridiculous athleticism, I’ve seen the guy fight and there’s definitely better fighters out there, but they just don’t have that same Ridiculous Strength and explosiveness brock has

Donald Marshall – Brute. He’s super saiyan Broly… From dragon ball Z

Billy Sweeney – How about hand to hand Don, who’s the best hand to hand celeb fighter you’ve seen in action? And who’s the best technically? (Most skillful)

Donald Marshall – A japanese guy that teaches many there called Odanisama. Modern day samurai.

There are many trainers. He teaches using pain as a motivator Enslaved me participated in my slavery. I’m gonna kill him. He knows too lol Shits like kill bill But this chink best not strike my ass down.

Billy Sweeney – I’d love to see a celeb from cloning who’s great at hand to hand get into a fight with someone who’s a celeb that has that super tough gangster guy image, just so I could see that “tough guy” with the image get humbled unexpectedly lol

Donald Marshall – Because people will skin him and make him die for 2 weeks if he did lol He will lemme have that head. Crazy huh?

Few are gangster. Very few They’re all fake from the country club.

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Donald Marshall (February 2014) – I wanted to make super saiyan Brock… after Brock Lesnar… but they called him Broly instead… made him look similar though.

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Donald Marshall (May 2014) – “Super Saiyan Broly” is a representation of ex heavyweight ufc champion Brock Lesnar.

I wanted to name him Super Saiyan Brock, but they wouldn’t let me.

Jann Samzy – What would Akira Toriyama say about this?

Donald Marshall – he’d ignore you or pretend he didn’t see any questions about me and or cloning. like the rest do.

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Ronda Rousey

Donald Marshall – She is very fake. They set up fights and people take the fall for her. She has been to cloning many times.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152998800946265&pnref=story Baddest woman on the planet…

She’s just a pretty face to fit the part.

Phil Chuppa – Yep like musicians and actors, they need an attractive commodity to sell.

Donald Marshall – Yep They use clones sometimes too. A lot of them train at cloning.

Davina Eubanks – are the Super Bowl games staged?

Donald Marshall – Yes Even with use of time travel…Technology.

She will be in trouble for harming me. In a metaphysical state.

Because they’ve used me for things For instance they put me in a clone to face josh koscheck it was to be one punch knockout or feel much pain. I fell after one punch intentionally. Ok?

Michael Marullo – How were you treated while there [at the cloning centers]?

Donald Marshall – Badly with threats and the hateful attention of UFC fake fighter woman Ronda Rousey. The fights are set up. Her big fights are against clones. She may be a clone herself while fighting. I’ll have much to say about her.

UFC fake fighter Ronda Rousey keeps bothering me at cloning. Trying to talk me into trouble. Trying to keep the place going. She likes it there. She benefits much. I hate that woman badly. She picked up where Elizabeth left off. Tell you all about it. She’s part of my second update I’m procrastinating on.

Nick Brooks – Woe, hold the horses, “she’s picking up where queen Elizabeth left off” ??? Am I out of context or miss somethin about the queen & not running the show there now or what, I’m confused??

Donald Marshall – She wanted to be the center of attention. The one that talks/bitches at me.

She won’t leave me alone at cloning. Keeps bugging me.

The fights are mostly scripted. Once I was a clone in the ring with Josh Koscheck… I was told to fall after one punch or is be tortured terribly at the cloning center. If the fights don’t go as planned they bounce time back and do it again. Groundhog Day.

Jesse Arnett – How long she been there bud ?

Donald Marshall – She’s new there.

Jesse Arnett – She Olympian 2 times just did movie and defended her title for 4th time her mom first world champion judo

Donald Marshall – Just a poster girl

Spencer Allen Eskridge – She looks kinda stupid in the face….Don… is she… ya know… slow? Upstairs?

Donald Marshall – She is mentally impaired. Yes. That retarded whore is gonna pay for bothering me in a metaphysical state.

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Celebrity cloning issue is becoming more transparent every day

Clones, clones everywhere… read Donald Marshall info…

Human cloning is quick to be dismissed as nonsense by some. But it is happening to celebrities, and the issue is becoming more transparent every day.

Jaden, Jaden, and Jaden Smith.
Jaden, Jaden, and Jaden Smith.

Human cloning, the creation of a genetically identical copy of a human, has been happening since the end of World War II. Originally created to develop soldiers for military purposes, the secret human cloning program has been occurring in underground military bases all over the world. Experiments (some say torture) involving human clones for non-military purposes have been happening behind closed doors in recent decades. Celebrity clones have been placed in real life settings, right in front of our faces, and most people haven’t noticed.

Cloning is no secret. In 1997, a sheep was successfully cloned from the mammary gland of a living adult sheep. But contrary to popular belief, Dolly was not the first animal cloned. Mice, tadpoles, and fish were experimented with first. Since then, embryologists have publicly admitted to cloning pigs, monkeys, dogs, horses, and even water buffalo and camels. Human cloning has been said to be taboo, but we are learning that it’s only taboo to talk about. It’s currently happening behind closed doors every day, and celebrities are the target.

Sound crazy? On the surface, it sounds like a movie plot. Until recently, you would have difficulty finding a scientist who would acknowledge that human cloning experiments have become routine. However, the number of scientists and embryologists who have stepped up over the last several months and are willing to acknowledge the truth about celebrity human cloning is growing daily.

celebrity cloning diagram

Elite scientists attempting to keep this program a secret are putting misinformation in the mix of cloning stories released to the media. This is a purposeful propaganda maneuver, carefully designed to distract from the issue of celebrity human cloning.

For example, scientists have released a lot of information to the media about cloning the extinct wooly mammoth, even though it will really be an elephant hybrid, not a wooly mammoth at all.

Another distraction was the claim of reconstructing DNA from dinosaurs and cloning them. We know this is impossible, because dinosaurs never existed. However, these heart-pounding stories of recreating monsters from eras past serve a very real purpose–to distract the public from celebrity human cloning.

Confessions or Tall Tales?

The confessions you may have heard from former scientists, researchers, or even the alleged human clone itself are often dismissed as a maniacal rant from a crazy person. Of course, it sounds crazy. Underground military bases, our government conducting secret experiments, and distracting propaganda maneuvers sound like something straight out of a science fiction movie or Nazi Germany. But it’s not just happening in Germany, it’s happening everywhere.

This is what an elite human cloning center looks like, according to the people who have seen them and been inside. These centers are only for very elite members of the Illuminati, and allow for access to natural light and fresh air.
This is what an elite human cloning center looks like, according to the people who have seen them and been inside. These centers are only for very elite members of the Illuminati, and allow for access to natural light and fresh air.

Two scientists recently gave exclusive interviews to anonymous journalists in undisclosed locations about the things they witnessed in underground celebrity cloning centers. Both of them express fear that they will be eliminated for speaking out, but were insistent that getting the truth out is much more important than their safety and the safety of their families.

A biomedical field engineer who would not share her name revealed some of the things she saw while working at a celebrity cloning center, which she says is located at Dulce Base, New Mexico. “If you’ve ever seen The Matrix, it basically looks like that. People pods everywhere,” she revealed. “It’s not like the movie The Island, not at all. Different layout. McMurdo Station looks more like that. I’ve never been there, but that’s what I have heard.”

She said she was personally involved in the cloning of High-5 and Kreayshawn, two up and coming rap artists. “You can tell they are clones just by looking at them. Look at them, and you’ll see little differences from normal people. Sometimes it’s in the eyes, sometimes it’s the skin. Usually it’s their demeanor that gives it away. There is an oddness that is very unnatural.”

This is Kreayshawn's clone, it's not Kreayshawn. You can tell it isn't Kreayshawn because of the way that she is.
This is Kreayshawn’s clone, it’s not Kreayshawn. You can tell it isn’t Kreayshawn because of the way that she is.

Rapper B.o.B. has recently spoken out about human cloning centers as well as how the earth is really flat. He won’t be talking about it much longer, according to the field engineer. “They have plans for him.” B.o.B. has already tweeted who is to blame if something is to happen to him. But the field engineer did not seem concerned about that.

A former elite embryologist who also would not share his name claims to have been personally involved with the cloning of Nicki Minaj in 2009. “It was a relatively smooth process, as far as cloning goes,” the embryologist remembers. “Nicki was agreeable and understood her compliance was required. Stephanie (Nicki’s clone) was a big deal for us. For everyone. She was highly anticipated, and cost a lot of money.” The embryologist did not share who paid for Stephanie.

Nicki Minaj poses with her human clone, Stephanie, for an Instagram photo. Nicki is Stephanie's BFF, and if you break Nicki's heart, Stephanie will break your face.
Nicki Minaj poses with her human clone, Stephanie, for an Instagram photo. Nicki is Stephanie’s BFF, and if you break Nicki’s heart, Stephanie will break your face.

Nicki is sometimes an outspoken opponent of human cloning, and other times appears to embrace it. She often posts, and then deletes evidence on Twitter and Instagram that exposes celebrity cloning centers. But she proudly shows off Stephanie without care of repercussion. “Clones are getting more and more brazen because their programmers are making them that way,” the field engineer said. “They want people to get used to it, to become accustomed to it, so it’s not so shocking when it’s finally revealed to the world how many clones are walking on earth today.”

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Donald Marshall: Kali

Donald Marshall (Thur. August 13, 2015) – Met Kali at cloning. Long story.

Kali isn’t some mystical God. She’s a dead chiphead. An undead techno God. “Ascended master”. Is partially insane. Works for birds. Annunaki. Is down with body snatchers.

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Donald Marshall (October 2013) – There is a Blue Arab, yes a blue arab woman, named “Kali” with a Uni Brow at cloning now. Her skin as clones is literally smurfy blue… stuffs getting weirder and weirder by the day…

Tim Webster – Kali is a Hindu goddess bro, blue Djinn maybe?

Donald Marshall – no, she is a clone… they are trying to pull bs on me, lol they can make a clones skin come out any color of the rainbow. no this woman was smurf blue, like turquoise.

2 arms. They’ve had her bothering me before, just never mentioned it… lol Yeah Don some blue arab woman is terrorizing you as clones ok… lol Maybe it’s just a halloween thing. smile emoticon

Hippie Lovegods – Once the goddess Durga became so angry that from her forehead a dark, violent goddess called Kali appeared. Kali gobbled up all the demons who were making Durga angry and wore a garland of their heads around her neck. However no one could calm Kali’s anger and all the people and the gods became very worried as she killed demons and evildoers without stopping. Kali’s rampage only stopped when the god Shiva, the powerful god of destruction, lay down in her path. When she discovered she was standing on such an important god, she immediately stopped. While Durga Puja ends at full moon, Kali Puja happens in the darkness of new moon night.

Donald Marshall – interesting.

Hippie Lovegods – Images of Kali show her with black skin, three eyes, fangs, and four arms. She wears a necklace of skulls and carries weapons and a severed head. She is usually portrayed with her tongue hanging out in recognition of her victory over the demon Raktavira. To make sure that Raktavira was truly dead, Kali had to suck the blood out of his body because any drop that fell to the ground would produce a duplicate of him.

Donald Marshall – don’t forget the skirt made of arms. smile emoticon

Astral Light – Don said Blue Kali is in this vid too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id6nCa_OTEM I, pet goat II

Donald Marshall – she wears the masks and dances around in the palace that crumbles at the end.

Steve Wildon – Wtf blue lady

Donald Marshall – blue skin yep.

Steve Wildon – Will she be coming out into public

Donald Marshall – in public she looks normal, is some rich businesswoman.

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Donald Marshall (Mon. August 10, 2015) – That’s kinda odd.

http://endtimeheadlines.org/…/goddess-kali-showcased-on-th…/ Goddess Kali Showcased On The Empire State Building In NYC

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Donald Marshall – Luka whatever the murdering body chopper guy is not a cannibal…

Something about the other side of the things…

Donald Marshall – Luka whatever the murdering body chopper guy is not a cannibal…. he was tortured at the cloning center as a clone by Steven Harper and other government officials… he fought there as I fought there… they raped him as a clone… he fought… they chopped his hands and feet off.. I saw this from the stands… he is sending Harper a warning… he hates them almost as much as I do… they made video of him as a clone acting retarded and he is nessed up, you would be too,… but hes after blind vengeance thinking he will never raise the wlrld to help him escape… I will take the time to tell the world… and let the populace get my revenge for me.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/luka-magnotta-body-parts-killer-judge-extradition-canada-143720438.html Luka Magnotta, Canada’s alleged ‘body parts’ killer, tells German judge he will not fight extradition

they messed him up badly.they took his clone hands and feet off so he couldnt resist… Its been done to me before as well… Luka is sending hands and feet to Harper because of it…I may be charged for telling you this somehow you need to listen to a song called

St Helena by The Misfits the people at the cloning center have used this method of restraining people from struggling before…. the song is about the hands n feet removal on a clone! someone post the official video plz you need to hear it now. not a similarity It was MADE for this moment in time by me…please hear it…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YnsnwhPQnw The Misfits Helena Music Video

If I cut off your arms and I cut off your legs would you still love me anyway. why dont you love me anyway ( why dont you let me have sex with your clone without dismembering you ) Dont wake up… rise up. I made that song years ago for these days… mk ultra,… taking out his pain on something else… also,… tbat very may well be propaganda… they did make a clone of him and have someone walk around on vid doing stuff… to turn the public on him… they did the same to me,…. they have an entire highlight reel of me doing all kinds and saying all kinds…. but people know whats goin on now… they tried to blackmail me with these bighlights and said they would make me hated world over… I said show em whatever ylu want and smiled… then they cried and begged me to sugarcoat events,… I refused.

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Latest Donald Marshall interview 2016 (video)

Awesome interview of number one whistleblower… one and only: Donald Marshall!:

>> http://livestream.com/ParanormalCentral1/events/4904938/videos/114656501

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Nimrods Tomb Found: Cloning of Nimrod and Osiris underway

This is like Donald Marshall has told. The elite is cloning persons from the past and makes them politicians and rock stars. Sick world we are living…

Apollyon Rising

As some of you may already know, archeologists claim to have found the tombs of both Osiris (Egyptian god, usually identified as the god of the afterlife, the underworld and the dead) and the tomb of Gilgamesh (A king who was claimed to be one third man and two thirds god [66.6%]). Very shortly after the tomb of Gilgamesh was discovered, America invaded Iraq, where it was discovered. This was back in 2003, so we were just beginning the war on terror.

So, these two gods are often linked to Nimrod, and many biblical researchers believe them to be one in the same. Is it possible these people actually existed and were mere men who were praised as gods? Is it possible that these men were influenced by the very same evil spirit that influenced Nimrod? If so, with the discoveries of these tombs, and with the very rapid expansion and understanding of DNA cloning technologies we are currently developing, is it possible that whoever may have governance over these tombs could be holding back information, which is scarce, and could possibly be planning something larger. What if they want control over this demonic DNA? What if they want to use it for clones, or for injecting it somehow into someone else? What if these so called gods did have some type of demonic power, like the occult seems to have, and their DNA contains something occult followers would wish to possess? If Nimrod is, in a sense, worshiped still today by mystery religions, what if these religions want to recreate him in some sense? If Babylon truly is still in existence to some degree, wouldn’t Nimrod be the guy they would most want to see again?

A whole lot of what if’s, but Nimrod worship is very real in this world, and with the technology of today and the discoveries of yesterday, something bigger could be in the works. Possibly something that will lead to the rise of the Anti Christ.

Ongoing excavations and research at Nimrud Mountain in Bitlis have revealed the history behind the tomb and treasures of King Nimrod. The real venue of the tomb, which was constructed 2,000 years ago, has been determined.

Writer and researcher Mehmet Törehan Serdar said his team has determined the location of the tomb after an extensive period of research. Noting that the mountain in Adıyaman has no relation to the mountain in Bitlis, Serdar said, “This is only a resemblance in name. The reason being, there is another kin of Adıyaman’s Nimrod in Nemrut.”King Nimrod, according to the Book of Genesis and the Books of Chronicles, was the son of Cush and great-grandson of Noah, and the King of Shinar. He is depicted in the Tanakh as a man of power on earth and a mighty hunter.

Extra-biblical traditions associating him with the Tower of Babel led to his reputation as a king who rebelled against God.

Several Mesopotamian ruins were given Nimrod’s name by 8th-century Arabs.

His tomb remained on the mountain, and the team believes to have found the real location
of the tomb in Bitlis.

OPENING PANDORA’S BOX?

As troubling as these thoughts are, they could be just the tip of the iceberg as one-on-one interpersonal malevolence by human-animals might quickly be overshadowed by global acts of swarm violence. The possibility of groups of “transhuman terrorists” in the conceivable future is real enough that a House Foreign Affairs committee chaired by California Democrat Brad Sherman, best known for his expertise on the spread of nuclear weapons and terrorism, is among a number of government panels and think-tanks currently studying the implications of genetic modification and human-transforming technologies related to future terrorism. CQ Columnist Mark Stencel listened to the recent HFA committee hearings and wrote in his March 15, 2009 article, Futurist: Genes Without Borders, that the conference “sounded more like a Hollywood pitch for a sci-fi thriller than a sober discussion of scientific reality… with talk of biotech’s potential for creating supersoldiers, superintelligence and superanimals [that] agents of unprecedented lethal force.” [1]

George Annas, Lori Andrews, and Rosario Isasi were even more apocalyptic in their American Journal of Law and Medicine article, Protecting the Endangered Human: Toward an International Treaty Prohibiting Cloning and Inheritable Alterations when they wrote:

“The new species, or ‘posthuman,’ will likely view the old ‘normal’ humans as inferior, even savages, and fit for slavery or slaughter. The normals, on the other hand, may see the posthumans as a threat and if they can, may engage in a preemptive strike by killing the posthumans before they themselves are killed or enslaved by them. It is ultimately this predictable potential for genocide that makes species-altering experiments potential weapons of mass destruction, and makes the unaccountable genetic engineer a potential bioterrorist.” [2]

Observations like those of Annas, Andrews, and Isasi cause one to wonder if this is not how the servants of Antichrist move with such compassionless brutality in rounding up to destroy all who refuse to receive the Mark of the Beast.

Not to be outpaced in this regard by rogue fringe scientists or even bio-terrorists, DARPA and other agencies of the U.S. military have taken inspiration from the likes of Tolkein’s Lord of the Rings, and in scenes reminiscent of Saruman the wizard creating monstrous Uruk-Hai to wage unending, merciless war, billions of American tax dollars have flowed into the Pentagon’s Frankensteinian dream of “super-soldiers” and “Extended Performance War Fighter” programs. Not only does the EPWFP envision “injecting young men and women with hormonal, neurological and genetic concoctions; implanting microchips and electrodes in their bodies to control their internal organs and brain functions; and plying them with drugs that deaden some of their normal human tendencies: the need for sleep, the fear of death, [and] the reluctance to kill their fellow human beings,” but as Chris Floyd in an article for CounterPunch a while back continued, “some of the research now underway involves actually altering the genetic code of soldiers, modifying bits of DNA to fashion a new type of human specimen, one that functions like a machine, killing tirelessly for days and nights on end…. mutations [that] will ‘revolutionize the contemporary order of battle’ and guarantee ‘operational dominance across the whole range of potential U.S. military employments.’” [3]

In keeping with our study, imagine the staggering implications of such science if dead Nephilim tissue was discovered with intact DNA and a government somewhere was willing to clone or mingle the extracted organisms to make Homo-nephilim. If one accepts the biblical story of Nephilim as real, such discovery could actually be made someday or perhaps already has been and was covered up. As an example of this possibility, in 2009 blood was extracted from the bone of a dinosaur that scientists insist is 80 million years old. Nephilim would have existed in relatively recent times comparably, making clonable material from dead biblical giants feasible. The technology to resurrect the extinct species already exists, and cloning methods are being studied now for use with bringing back Tasmanian Tigers, Wooly Mammoths and other extinguished creatures. National Geographic also confirmed this possibility in their May 2009 special report Recipe for a Resurrection, quoting Hendrik Poinar of McMaster University, an authority on ancient DNA who served as a scientific consultant for the movie Jurassic Park, saying: “I laughed when Steven Spielberg said that cloning extinct animals was inevitable. But I’m not laughing anymore… This is going to happen. It’s just a matter of working out the details.” [4]

Will the same technology lead to the resurrection of the pagan deity Apollo/Osiris/Nimrod, who returns to rule the Novus Order Seclorum? Is material from the deity’s ‘body’ concealed in a tomb at Giza… or in Washington, DC… or in the ‘sacred casket’ that former U.S. Vice President Henry Wallace mentioned in his letter to Nicholas Roerich, considered in esoteric circles to be the same as the casket or ‘coffin’ of Osiris? If so, is it conceivable that plans to revive the Apollonian tissue using biotechnology have already been made, or worse, have already been accomplished and the pagan god waits the moment of its unveiling?

People not familiar with biblical eschatology may find this idea fantastic, that the being who becomes the Antichrist was once alive, then was dead, and returns from the grave to rule the Novus Ordo Seclorum. But this is exactly what Revelation 17:8 appears to say will happen: “The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition [Apoleia,]: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder… when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.” Further, the mythos of the Eye of Horus on the Great Seal, which so fascinated Wallace and company, represents this very concept of deity incarnation into the “King” that is to rule. As mentioned earlier in this blog series, in ancient Egypt where this Great Seal symbol originated, each Pharaoh “became” the incarnation of the falcon god Horus during his lifetime, and at death, the Osiris—the divine judge of the netherworld.

As biotechnology and synthetic biology advance to the degree that we can now realistically anticipate reviving long-dead species, I have been able to convince a few scholarly minds that the Man of Sin could in fact be the return of a deceased Apollo/Osiris/Nimrod who arrives via biotech resurrection. Even Chuck Missler, though not with the same details, raised the appropriate question not long ago in an online article about the Antichrist: “Could it be that this final world dictator will be, in some sense, a return of Nimrod?” In my opinion, this is more than a possibility, and I remember with curiosity how in 1998, Zahi Hawass, the current Secretary General of Egypt’s Supreme Council of Antiquities, claimed to have found the burial tomb of the god Osiris (Apollo/Nimrod) at the Giza Plateau. In the article Sandpit of Royalty from the newspaper Extra Bladet (Copenhagen), January 31, 1999, Hawass was quoted saying:

“I have found a shaft, going 29 meters vertically down into the ground, exactly halfway between the Chefren Pyramid and the Sphinx. At the bottom, which was filled with water, we have found a burial chamber with four pillars. In the middle is a large granite sarcophagus, which I expect to be the grave of Osiris, the god…I have been digging in Egypt’s sand for more than 30 years, and up to date this is the most exciting discovery I have made…. We found the shaft in November and began pumping up the water recently. So several years will pass before we have finished investigating the find.” [5]

Insofar as we know this discovery did not ultimately provide the physical remains of the deity. Of course, that is, in as far as we know. But what it did illustrate is that at least some very powerful Egyptologists believe Osiris was a historical figure, and that his body was stored somewhere at or near the Great Pyramid. Manly P. Hall, who knew the Masonic legend of Hiram Abiff was a thinly veiled prophecy of the resurrection of Osiris, seems to have understood what Zahi Hawass was looking for, and why. Consider that he wrote in The Secret Teachings of All Ages:

“The Dying God shall rise again! The secret room in the House of the Hidden Places shall be rediscovered. The Pyramid again shall stand as the ideal emblem of solidarity, inspiration, aspiration, resurrection, and regeneration. [6]

Over the years, biblical scholar Gary Stearman has written extensively about Nimrod (Apollo/Osiris/Gilgamesh) and the connection this historical figure has with Babylonian Mystery Religion, Watchers, Nephilim (including their resurrection), and the spirit of the end-times Antichrist and revival of paganism. He too appears to believe the coming of Antichrist represents a return of Nimrod. “But who is this Assyrian,” he asked in the July 2001 Prophecy in the News Magazine, “He is none other than the spiritual inheritor of the first great post-Flood religious apostasy. He is the keeper of the great heritage that began at the Assyrian capital, Nineveh. Its founder was Nimrod…. He is the Antichrist, the future despot who comes in the name of the ancient mystery religion.”

A year earlier, in June of 2000, Stearman had written in Prophecy in the News concerning Nimrod:

“He was a rebel who allowed himself to be worshipped as a god. After the Flood, his rebellion became the foundation of mankind’s greatest religious apostasy. Down through the generations, this system of false worship became known simply as the “Babylonian Mystery Religion.”

Its basis is quite clear. It attempts to channel the power of the ancient gods through the figure of one, powerful man. Nimrod became that god…” [emphasis].

Alexander Hislop in his classic text The Two Babylons substantiates Stearman’s thesis that the Babylonian Mystery Religion was based on the worship of Nimrod. “It was to glorify Nimrod that the whole Chaldean system of iniquity was formed,” he wrote (p.20). Yet Stearman sees that the Mystery Religion continued secretly through the ages, shrouded in hiding by adepts of the occult in anticipation of a final moment when the ancient spirit should be awakened.

“…corrupt priesthoods have flourished, carrying with them the shadow of Nimrod and his ancient mysteries. Their inner secrets have been known by various names, including alchemy, magic, sorcery, conjuring, soothsaying and so forth…. waiting for the prophesied day when it would rise once again. This movement will result in the reign of the Antichrist.”

In addition to the supernatural aspects that biotechnology could provide the Luciferian technology to resurrect Nimrod/Apollo/Osiris in the person of the last days Man of Sin, the ramifications of using the same science to revive extinct animals, Nephilim, or to create newly engineered versions of demigods and mythological animals may also play a role in the Kingdom of Antichrist. This is because as interbreeding begins between transgenic animals, genetically modified humans, and specie as God made them, the altered DNA will quickly migrate into the natural environment, and when that happens (as is already occurring among genetically modified plants and animals), ‘alien’ and/or animal characteristics will be introduced to the human gene pool and spread through intermarriage, altering the human genetic code and eventually eliminating humanity as we know it. This is what happened before the Great Flood according to many theologians, and perhaps that has been the whole idea for the end-times as well—to create a generation of genetically altered ‘Nimrods’ to serve as ‘fit extensions’ for the resurrection of underworld Nephilim-hordes in preparation of Armageddon.

Does a curious verse in the book of Daniel hint at this? Speaking of the last days of human government, Daniel said:

“…they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay” (Dan. 2:43).

While Daniel does not explain who they that “mingle themselves with the seed of men” are, the personal pronoun they caused Chuck Missler and Mark Eastman in their book Alien Encounters to ask: “Just what (or who) are ‘mingling with the seed of men?’ Who are these Non-seed? It staggers the mind to contemplate the potential significance of Daniel’s passage and its implications for the future global governance.” [7]

Daniel’s verse troubled Missler and Eastman because it seemed to indicate that the same phenomenon that occurred in Genesis chapter 6 where non-human species or ‘non-seed’ mingled with human seed and produced Nephilim, would happen again in the end times. When this verse from Daniel is coupled with Genesis 3:15, which says, “And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed [zera,] and her seed,” an incredible tenant emerges—that Satan has seed, and that it is at enmity with Christ.

To ‘mingle’ non-human seed with Homo sapiens through altering human DNA while simultaneously returning Nephilim to earth has been the inspiration of the spirit of antichrist ever since God during the Great Flood halted the practice. According to Louis Pauwells & Jacques Bergier in The Dawn of Magic (first published in France under the title “Le Matin des Magiciens” 1960 by Editions Gallimard, Paris), this was certainly the goal of the antichrist Adolf Hitler:

Hitler’s aim was neither the founding of a race of supermen, nor the conquest of the world; these were only means towards the realization of the great work he dreamed of. His real aim was to perform an act of creation, a divine operation, the goal of a biological mutation which would result in an unprecedented exaltation of the human race and the “apparition of a new race of heroes and demigods and god-men.” [8]

One cannot read the conclusion by Pauwells and Bergier regarding Hitler’s antichrist ambition without seeing how it corresponds perfectly with the Cumaean Sibyl’s prophecy pertaining to the coming of Apollo, who receives “the life of gods, and sees Heroes with gods commingling.” This calls to mind that from the Middle Ages forward, church leaders have believed the Antichrist would ultimately represent the return of the Nephilim—the reunion of demons with humans. St. Augustine himself wrote of such demoniality in the City of God [9], and in the De Daemonialitate, et Incubis, et Succubi, Fr. Ludovicus Maria Sinistrari de Ameno (1622-1701) also perceived the coming of Antichrist as representing the biological hybridization of demons with humans. “To theologians and philosophers,” he wrote, “it is a fact, that from the copulation of humans with the demon…Antichrist must be born.” [10]

The English theologian George Hawkins Pember agreed with this premise, and in his 1876 masterpiece Earth’s Earliest Ages he analyzed the prophecy of Christ that says the end-times would be a repeat of “the days of Noah.” Pember outlined the seven great causes of the antediluvian destruction and documented their developmental beginnings in his lifetime. The seventh and most fearful sign, Pember wrote, would be the return of the Nephilim, “The appearance upon earth of beings from the Principality of the Air, and their unlawful intercourse with the human race.”

Consequently, if the Antichrist is the reincarnation of the demon Apollo as prophesied by the Apostle Paul, not only will he be the exact opposite of Jesus (Son of God), but the forerunner of the return of the Nephilim. The prophet Isaiah (chapters 13 and 14) likewise spoke of the return of these beings, and tied the advent to the destruction of the city of Babylon in the final age. The following verse should give us pause in light of the ongoing presence of US armed forces in Iraq/Babylon and the powder keg surrounding it. From the Septuagint, we read:

The vision which Esaias son of Amos saw against Babylon. Lift up a standard on the mountain of the plain, exalt the voice to them, beckon with the hand, open the gates, ye ruler. I give command and I bring them: giants are coming to fulfill my wrath…. For behold! the day of the Lord is coming which cannot be escaped, a day of wrath and anger, to make the world desolate…. And Babylon…shall be as when God overthrew Sodoma and Gomorrah…. It shall never be inhabited…and monsters shall rest there, and devils shall dance there and satyrs shall dwell there . . . (Isaiah 13:1-3, 9, 19-22).

One can only speculate if something more than is casually perceived is meant by Isaiah when he says, “open the gates, ye ruler,” but whoever this ruler is, he opens ‘gates’ in Iraq/Babylon through which end-times giants (Gibborim) return to the surface of earth as agents of God’s wrath. Noting that Isaiah ties the destruction of Iraq/Babylon with the reappearance of Gibborim in this way, we recall how thousands of US troops on invading Iraq during the Bush administration admittedly filled U.S. containers with archaeological materials, including what some have speculated to be cuneiform tablets pointing to the location of pure-blooded Nephilim buried in underground caves. This is exactly where Enoch said the antediluvian Nephilim are, and raises fascinating questions: Would agencies like DARPA have interest in studying or cloning the extinct beings if they were, or have been, found? Could man in his arrogance revive ancient DNA, revitalizing or blending it with other living organisms in a way similar to what the Watchers did in making the first Nephilim? Is this how the Rephaim (dead Nephilim) who are viewed as squirming beneath the surface of the earth, rise to challenge the armies of God during Armageddon? Is the factual reappearance on earth of legendary beings verified by Isaiah, who foresaw creatures such as satyrs (transgenic half-man half-goats) accompanying the return of giants in the end-times, or why other Apocryphal Books like 2 Esdras 5:8 prophesy the birth of “monsters” for the same period of time? Some may be shocked to learn that in addition to the citations above, the Bible actually describes an end-times confrontation between the ‘mythological gods’ and Christ. “The Lord will be terrible unto them: for he will famish all the gods of the earth” says Zephaniah 2:11. “The Lord of hosts, the God of Israel, saith; Behold, I will punish the… gods” (Jer. 46:25). Human followers of the pagan deities will also join the conflict, calling upon their “idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood” (Rev. 9:20) to convene their powers against the Christian God, uniting with “unclean spirits like frogs… the spirits of devils working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth… to gather them to the battle of that great day… [to] a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon [Megiddo]” (Rev. 16:13-14;16).

Given that the prophets foretold a day when mythical characters and “gods” would return to earth to conduct war against the God of the Bible, it is more than a little disturbing that man has, for the first time since before the Great Flood, intentionally set course to repeat what ancient records say the Watchers did. The accelerated pace by scientific exploration against God’s Divine Order, and the subsequent revival of Watcher technology leading to transhuman or revived forms of Nephilim, has without doubt pushed the end-times clock closer to midnight than most comprehend.

ENOCH’S 70 GENERATIONS: IS THAT THE GROUND I FEEL RUMBLING?

Enoch was the son of Jared, father of Methuselah and great-grandfather of Noah whose writings provide the most detailed account of the fall of the “Watchers,” the angels who fathered the infamous Nephilim. While the book of Enoch is no longer included in most versions of the Bible, Enoch’s writings are quoted in the New Testament in at least two places, and he is mentioned by name in both the Old and New Testaments, including Jude 14-15 where one of his prophecies is cited. During the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, pre-Maccabean fragments of the Book of Enoch were found, helping scholars to verify the book’s antiquity while also illustrating that the ancients held these texts to be inspired. Many early Church Fathers likewise considered the Book of Enoch to be sacred, including Tertullian, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Origen and Clement of Alexandria. This is an important fact because if Enoch was truly a prophet, then the world may be in for an unfathomable surprise concerning the return of Nephilim, and soon.

In the tenth chapter of the book of Enoch, it says the Watchers who were judged during the flood would be bound beneath the hills of the earth for 70 generations, until the day of their final judgment when they will be released from those confines and thrown into an abyss of fire, “to the torment and the prison in which they shall be confined for ever.”

But in the fifteenth chapter, Enoch writes about the deceased offspring of the Watchers, the giants or Nephilim, and describes them as being released at the same time to bring slaughter and destruction upon man:

“The spirits of the giants…shall be concealed, and shall not rise up against the sons of men, and against women; until they come forth during the days of slaughter and destruction” (Enoch 15:9-10).

This particular prophecy mirrors those of Isaiah and other apocryphal works, which indicate a future date in which Watchers will rise for judgment while their giant offspring resurrect “from beneath the hills of the earth” to wreak havoc upon earth. According to Enoch, this unparalleled event is scheduled to occur after 70 generations have passed from the time of the Flood.

This could be troubling.

Although traditional scholarship places the time of the Great Flood between BC 2500 and 2300, modern dating by some researchers has roughly estimated the flood to have actually transpired between BC 2800 and 2900. For instance this is the dating given by a group of scientists from the USA, Russia, Australia, France, and Ireland known as the Holocene Impact Working Group who hypothesize the Great Flood resulted from a comet striking the Indian Ocean between 2800-2900 BC, resulting in a mega-tsunami. Because a prophetic generation is 70 years based on Psalm 90:10 (“The days of our years are threescore years and ten”), Enoch’s 70 generations times 70 years equals exactly 4900 years forward from the flood. If the flood took place between BC 2800 and 2900, this brings the return of the Nephilim to the immediate hour. In other words, if this BC 2800 to 2900 dating is correct, mankind is on the threshold of Watchers being raised from their underground prisons and thrown into an abyss of fire, while their giant offspring return to the surface of earth in violent fulfillment of multiple prophecies (and does this coincide with the Mayan 2012 return of Quatzlecoatl?)

We have no idea whether the modern time frame for the Great Flood is reasonable, but the Book of Jubilees—another apocryphal text—seems to verify this frightening scenario, prophesying Nephilim on earth in the last days. Again, the familiar word “corruption” turns up in association with these beings, insinuating an end-times repeat of what the Watchers did by corrupting human DNA and blending it with animals to retrofit human bodies for Nephilim incarnation. Note that this happens just before Satan is judged.

“The malignant evil ones [spirits] were bound in the place of condemnation, but a tenth part of them were left that they might be subject before Satan on the earth. These are for corruption [corruption] and leading astray men before Satan’s judgment” (10:7-12).

Finally, a prophecy in the second chapter of the Book of Joel could refer to the same end-times volcano of resurrected Nephilim. While some expositors say Joel was most likely describing an army of locusts, with phrases like “[They] a great people and a strong” and “they shall run like mighty men [Gibborim]” it is reasonable to question if in fact these verses are talking about grasshoppers.

“[They] a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it… and nothing shall escape them. The appearance of them is as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run…. They shall run like mighty men [Gibbowr,]; they shall climb the wall like men of war…. They shall run to and fro in the city; they shall run upon the wall, they shall climb up upon the houses; they shall enter in at the windows like a thief. The earth shall quake before them…. And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?” (Joel 2:2-11)

When the numerous ancient texts from inerrant Scriptures to extra-biblical sources are added up, there is persuasive evidence that Joel’s army could indeed be more than simple grasshoppers, and that this massive Gibborim army that runs upon the wall from which nobody can escape could be the result of man’s willingness to play “god” in reviving forbidden science and opening “gates” to what lurks beyond.

Even then, we are just getting started…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMhk0MYuusg

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The Secret Order of The Illuminati
(A Brief History of the “Moriah” and the Shadow Government)
http://www.consfearacynewz.com/the-secret-order-of-the-illuminati.html

Minthras Mystery Religion
http://www.consfearacynewz.com/forums.html#/20130719/bloomberg-lp-worships-minthras-mystery-religo-2758565/

THE MEROVINGIAN DYNASTY
http://www.consfearacynewz.com/forums.html#/20130824/the-merovingian-dynasty-3057921/

Remote Viewing, Lucifer & Time Travel etc
http://www.consfearacynewz.com/forums.html#/20130811/remote-viewing-lucifer-time-travel-etc-2999959/

THE TRIUNE OF EVIL AND THE GRAND CLIMAX
http://www.consfearacynewz.com/forums.html#/20130725/the-trine-of-evil-and-the-grand-climax-2778475/

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Human Cloning, Drones (parasited Hosts) And Vril (subterranean Lizards)… This Is The Donald Marshall Story

I have posted about donald Marshall many times, but that’s because I think he has the keys to the Truth. His story combines everything together and that is the most important thing:

This is the story of a man named Donald Marshall and it is a story that has to go viral in order to be spread worldwide. If you are interested in the truth of this world then please take the time and visit www.vrillizards.webs.com for an introduction because there is so much info and it is so in-depth and you may find it to be rather convoluted in parts. Please keep an open mind and don’t be quick to dismiss this as nonsense.

The Elite who control the world have been keeping a very dark secret for many years now and it’s getting to the point where the truth is about to be revealed. This will sound crazy but this is an important part to the whole thing. After world war 2 the Nazi’s discovered how to clone humans through a process which involved agitating the human tissue and letting the cells heal until it grew a fully formed person, they also discovered that when a person is in the R.E.M cycle of sleep they could transfer the consciousness of that person into their clone. Now there are cloning centers all over the world and these are the places where the top politicians and religious sectors of society meet in secret to discuss matters concerning the world…you may know them as the Illuminati. Celebrities started to attend a short time after.

A lot of depraved things have taken place at these cloning centers and Donald Marshall’s story is what is going to blow it all out into the open. Donald Marshall is not part of the Elite, he is a cloned sex slave who also used to write songs for many of the celebrities who attended. The reason for him being there was because his mother was also a slave so any child she gave birth to would also become one. You have to remember the Illuminati are satanists.

I have attached the letter that Donald Marshall wrote and released to the public, please take the time to read this ad understand the hardships this man has gone through in his life.

THIS IS NO HOAX THIS IS NO JOKE My name is Donald Marshall, I have been cloned by a large secretive cult known as the “Free Masons” and “The Vrill Society” and “Scientologists” together called the Illuminati. They make replicated bodies of people to victimize in terrible ways, they clone children for men with underdeveloped penises to have sex with. Some very famous and politically powerful people all getting together for a disgusting time. Most of the G20 gather there to discuss worldly matters and watch gruesome things done to innocent people for sport. I have seen this firsthand and will tell all as it must be stopped. The political people started bringing movie stars and musicians there to hang around with them, they can control who remembers the cloning facility and who will remain oblivious even though not remembering still damages you. I know who is involved, the ring leaders and everything they do.

It is basically a torture and child molesting factory, I was one of those children but when I was young to keep the perverts off of me I started singing songs… original songs, very good ones, they told me to keep making these songs and I wouldn’t get hurt, and so I did, then they started bringing me there everyday for songs as the celebrities wanted more, they called me the goose that layed the golden egg, the phenomenon, but I ran out of ideas, then the torture began. They smashed my face to start, throwing me around scaring me a 5 year old never letting me remember in real life until I turned 30. The torture worsened until I was being stabbed and burned and repeatedly sodomized. At age 30 they allowed me to remember these clone memories and now everytime I enter R.E.M sleep I am there, I don’t have dreams only clone memories, they made the movie “The Island” and “Inception” about this subject. They think they’re very sly and untouchable.

They have nothing to do but show off for each other in disgusting ways, they have no shame, it seems nothing embarrases them. They sit there in the stands of an unused arena smaller than a hockey rink but can still seat between 300 and 400 people with dirt in the center where the ice would be, they have frightened clones of children go into the middle to be victimized for a bizarre disgusting spectacle sometimes having animals like dogs have sex with them while a man holds the leash so it won’t bite them on the back of the neck, which I’ve seen happen before. They all try to out do each other in their levels of depravity, to be evil is “cool” to them.

Now to tell you about the ring leaders as unbelievable as it may be to you, but you must believe me, this is a world emergency. The royal family of England,… yes Queen Elizabeth,Phillip Duke of Edinburgh and Prince Charles are the worst of them, unbelievable depraved perverts all showing off for the celebrities that go there, Elizabeth has the children there call her “lillibet” and does ungodly things to them, some she fakes being nice to, some she is terrible to, cutting them with swords while they scream, the decent people that are there against their will are afraid to say anything against them, most have their children there as a kind of hostage, to be torn apart if they even think of informing anyone, but as they have been torturing me terribly anyway I will tell all, Vladamir Putin loves to put the fear of torture and death into people but is essentially a cowardly pervert himself. Most of the famous people are ashamed to speak or be seen by me there very much,as they’re ashamed of the perverse and disgusting gatherings, I am a decent person and will not participate in these acts, so they use me as an example and torture me for my being a good person. They’ve drugged me and had me say and do disgusting things in a blurred state just in case any of this comes to light so I can be hated as well by any that prove this.

C.S.I.S Canadian intelligence are all involved, including a lot of Commissionaires and Prime Minister Steven Harper himself, They do what Elizabeth says, seem to follow her every whim without question, It doesn’t matter who you are, If you have a cute child or a child with a moneymaking ability (like song making) they will clone your child, and molest them, it’s a pedophiles paradise and must be stopped. Elizabeth secretly owns a few music companies, (universal and others) with bands under contract, she forces me while under the knife to compose music for them, if I can’t she will stab my clone, burn me have her pervert thugs smash my body there. It’s causing me some kind of heart damage and severe debilitating headaches.

One good person there Bernie Mac comedian and actor tried to stand up for me speak up for me saying it’s not right to do to a human being,… tried to have others join him in speaking out against the clone torture zone while there,… Elizabeth and Phillip had him tortured so badly there as an example of their “power” he had an aneurysm the next day and died. Now no one will speak up, they’re all afraid of suffering the same fate. All it will take is a few lie detector tests, I will volunteer for them, they cover up for themselves so carefully that it will be the only way. I know of many non famous people that could be given a lie detector test to to prove this. When it comes to the sexual exploitation of a child lie detectors are admissable in Canadian courts. I need decent people with integrity so speak to about this filthy business, to tell who is involved. There is much more to tell, I am a wealth of information about this topic. Also Elizabeth had princess Diana Spencer killed by having someone shine the brightest light known to mankind through the window side on to the car, they swerved away from it and hit the divider, it was no paparazzi. Diana survived though, and while either on the way to or in the hospital was injected with a high concentration of salt which is near undetectable and died. She did this because Diana was going to marry an Arab. Diana hated them, knew about the cloning stuff and wanted nothing to do with it, but was afraid of being killed so said nothing. I know this and many more things that I will be more than happy to tell.

I beg you reading this to help me, I swear this to be true with my right hand to god, They stupidly put my face on a Megadeth album, “The World Needs A Hero” when I was 23, thinking nothing would ever be proven. Google image it, I still look the same, it shows what I end up looking like after a clone gathering. Most of the members of my family are there some willing some not,soe remember in real life some don’t, none will do anything for fear of torture and death.My family has one by one been turned against me, they told them things like I secretly hit or molested their children, poisoned their pets when they died of sickness, things like that to make them hate me and not want to help me. Even if they side with me there and say they don’t believe it’s true, Elizabeth then says “Are you cooling me a liya” in her disgusting croaking voice made as low and evil sounding as she can make it, complete with psychotic malevolent glare and they say “No no, of course it’s true” stuttering afraid. My mother Catherine Mcmahon sold me into this sex and torture slavery when she remarried a man named Gordon Cohoon, his whole family is in this scummy secret society, his brothers Tom and Tony Cohoon his sisters Darlene and Bernadette Cohoon, they fear the new and improved lie detector tests, and that is all it would take to prove this true.

Half way through making this document they brought me there and introduced me to a man named TROY LANDRY, He is an alligator trapper from Louisiana on the tv program swamp people, he said if I sent this letter out he would take a power drill to my shin bone there and suck the marrow from my bones, kinda like a spinal tap, one of the worst things you can do to a clone besides burning, I said the letter will be going out, I have to escape this place, and so he did just that, it was excruciatingly painful, everyone just watched slack jawed in the crowd, Troy Landry is an insatiable child molester and an extra retarded clone, in Louisiana when he see’s a young boy he likes he asks his name tells him he’s an alligator hunter shakes hands, then asks his pedophile friends at the local cloning station to find the boys blood records to clone him, months later there are multiple identical boys grown for Troy Landry to victimize before the crowd of onlookers. They all do this, it’s just a way of life to them, they consider themselves the priviledged people in the world power organization. Nearly everyone on that swamp people show go to the cloning stations. After doing this shin bone spinal tap he asked me again will I send this letter out I said yes, he said he’ll do the same to my pelvic bone everyday, its worse. I said I have no choice, and so he did, And it is worse… you forget your own name, where you are, all you know is pain and you beg god or anything to save you from it…

Donald Marshall Inter view Feb 2013

Another deplorable thing they did in real life, The Canadian government was trying to lower the amount of prostitutes on the streets, (also Elizabeth hates prostitutes) so they had a man named Robert Pickton start killing them and feeding them to pigs on his pig farm, they had a camera set up in the upper corner of a room in his house and recorded him hitting them in the head with a hammer,(a ball-peen hammer) they took the recordings and all watch them at the cloning station, Elizabeth loves watching it, says she has a maccabre fascination with death, Prime minister Steven Harper knows all about it, has seen the recordings and cheers as the rest of them do, If Mr. Pickton ever says anything about them or the recordings they will make him have a heart attack or aneurysm.

You may ask why won’t they just kill me before I send this document everywhere? It’s because I’ve done so much since age 5 no one wants to be resonsible for my death, they’ve said I’m the new age Jesus (which I’m not) then they’ve said I’m the antichrist, also the Jewish people there (there are more of them there than anyone else) called me the Mishiak I didn’t know what that was so I looked it up on the internet, it means jewish messiah ( also which I am not ) now every day rich people go there to meet me and smash me or stab me for some gruesome fetish it seems, while the rest watch in the stands, it’s the worst nightmare situation I have ever heard of and its happening to me, they get others too but they’re just used as sex slaves and wont talk about it, I get tortured anyway and have nothing to lose by telling everyone about it, not only am I tortured into making songs for nearly everyone on much music, they want me to give them video ideas and movie ideas video game ideas they want me to think up all kinds of stuff for them, jewish people think I’m something religious and won’t leave me alone, they torture animals too, the more the animal screams the more their god Yahweh supposedly likes it, which I find ridiculous, I’ve written the human rights board, they didn’t respond, I went to the police, they threw me into a mental hospital for 23 days for an evaluation. I was released with a clear bill of mental health. They continue to torture me, talk to me about absurd subjects, they’ve run out of things to talk about, even talked about the difference between pop tarts and toaster strudel and which is better and why, there is nothing to do there besides sex and fighting and torturing other victims.

I must add, they clone people from all walks of life there and chain them down to stainless steel corpse tables or drug them so they can’t move, send people into the room dressed up as aliens hollywood quality makeup and make them think they’re having an alien abduction, they even dye chicken skin grey and stretch it over a mask for realism, perform medical “experiments” on them cutting them up, perverts anal probing them and raping they’re limp bodies, these victims wake up and think they’ve been abducted by aliens but don’t know where to turn, and are embarrassed, the victims even sometimes try to videotape themselves while they sleep, to prove theyve been taken, to no avail, they’re not taken, they’ve been cloned by the most disgusting perverts in the world… the scum even videotape these abductions to watch later as sick demented porn,… this happens more often than you can imagine, they just keep doing it to random people over and over and over…

They’ve offered me clone slaves to keep me quiet, any of the prettiest women I’ve ever seen any girl from the high school, even children, I do the right thing and spit in they’re faces, jam my fingers into they’re eyes but they have some way of turning off their pain receptors there, not much will hurt them other than getting dirt or vomit in a wound or bleeding out too much it only costs them time and money to grow new bodies. I started smearing excrement in their faces, I’ve never handled feces in my real life before but I do this there and even that doesn’t deter them,… I made a song for One Republic referring to it called “All the right moves” The lyrics say (All the right friends in all the right places,… All the right moves in all the right faces”) I’ve made so many songs its ridiculous rock pop rap country, there are so many people involved in it it’s staggering, the organization is vast. The only thing they fear is nuclear war the new and improved lie detector test and THIS letter. For those of you thinking Queen Elizabeth looks like a kindly little old lady and this can’t be true you couldn’t be more wrong, she is the worst human being I have ever seen or heard of. It’s so sad to see these women and children brought there, sitting in the center dirt naked afraid crying, raped and beaten for sport of the rich and famous. I of course can’t bring myself to be a part of it.

Fefe Dobson (singer) and Kurt Russell (actor) told me specifically to include in my letter that they don’t like the place and didn’t torture me. Then said not to mention them but I just have. Mila Kunitz (actress) from “That 70’s show” recently stabbed me a bunch of times while I was rendered immobile for saying she’s a slimy scumbag for hanging with these people and saying she has enormous eyeballs and looks like a lemur, then begged me not to mention her, then said she doesn’t want to go to the clone zone anyway, and she left, her body going limp and looking dead she was gone. These people are allowed to leave but not me, I’m an imprisoned slave, in the worst nightmare situation. I told Nicole Leone (Madonna) that I was going to tell everyone what she used to do to me for songs throughout my life, She told me VERY specifically to say in my letter here “She is not afraid” no one will believe me and nothing will come of this. I beg you to help me prove her wrong.

I am a Christian god fearing man, they tell me there is no god only science and technology. They are responsible for the death of young beauty pageant girl Jean-Benet Ramsay, her parents are in this. Casey Anthony’s daughter, Casey anthony AND her parents are in this. Many others, recently a man had his wife killed it’s on the news now, the asian woman, her rich husband had her killed, said she was responsible for his sons death, Elizabeth says rich people in this organization don’t go to jail, they are covered for. Steven Speilberg, George Lucas members, George had them light me on fire for the end of his movie Revenge of the Sith, Said he wanted Hayden Christiensen to scream realisticly, Hayden watched me listened to me scream and groan in pain and copied the sounds exactly, he knows all about it. As does Natalie Portman, and a quarter of the cast. Many directors have used me like that, in a role playing situation, cause me some kind of excruciating pain just to see what kind of squeak or screech I will make, as if I were less than a dog, then when I’m a bloody mess on the floor they crawl on my broken body and sodomize me saying something like they love me and can’t control themselves because I made all they’re favorite songs and I’m so “special”. Broken ribs bending and internal bleeding, me crying or screaming if I am able, but they just keep on going and they videotape this so they can view it again like evil pornography.

Children they bring there need a familiar face to talk to or all they do is scream and cry, that is where Joy Geizer comes in, she is married to my half brother from my fathers first marraige, Joy Geizer is a girl guide leader and when they clone in girl guides she speaks to them keeps them calm and pretty much pimps them for free, knowing the children will have they’re memories repressed and will not talk about it in real life, all the Geizers are in this stuff, many people that could also be polygraph tested, (Independent polygraph testers) because the police testers in my City of Halifax Nova Scotia are compromised, they cover up for child molesters, as I said commissionaires and C.S.I.S are heavily involved. All it will take is a few lie detector tests to prove these things. I will take them, and demand my mother and step father submit to them as well, it would be as easy as that. They’ve told me they won’t even attempt to lie on a polygraph.

Donald Marshall Interview Apr 2013

Please don’t consider this the ramblings of a crazy person, it is absolute truth. My life and the lives and freedom of many people are depending on this document. They say the world finding t about cloning will set the stage for the end of the world in 2012, they’re big into Nostradamus and prophecy,said I’m the Anti-Christ because he is supposed to have a powerful weapon of air (internet) and this letter I send everywhere over the internet is like a weapon over the airwaves and will cause armageddon But something must be done, you can’t understand unless you’ve been there just how terrible this is, the level of depravity and sub human cruelty is beyond anything that has ever been heard of and there is much more to tell, Ignore this and you condemn me to a horrible eventual death and will encourage them that they are all powerful. This is not an exaggeration, I don’t need to exaggerate, there is still much more to tell, Even President Obama is involved with these people, he and his wife go to these gatherings, they thought up a sick joke there, they and their administration set up a low level flight of air force 1 over New York city some time after the 9/11 world trade center bombings simply to terrify people!!! Just because they could. Told people afterwards it was a photo opportunity for they’re plane but no pictures were taken, they had the emergency calls of frightened people brought to the clone place, listened to them and laughed hysterically, people yelling out “Al qaeda has more planes calling emergency lines, lots of calls from terrified people. Then looked at me and said “Donny we are all powerful, If we can do this and nothing comes of it how are you going to be able to get us? You are our slave and the people here won’t speak up for you for fear of torture and death. Now make us a new song or we’ll gut you like a fish and leave you to writhe in agony”.

This is so important, it’s all gods honest truth I swear to you, please help me for pity’s sake, I realize what this sounds like but I can only say what I know. It’s supposed to sound absurd, it’s they’re best defence, They’ve chained me to a cross and cut me up burned me and stuff, like a crucifixion with extra torture while they all watch blank faces, some crying some just staring at their feet, Some actually masterbate in their seats while this is going on and I’m screaming. They don’t seem to get tired of it, like its some kind of religious ceremony.

My EMAIL ADDRESS IS – donny865@hotmail.com Message me please and I will tell you where I am and will tell everything in person on camera, will take lie detector tests myself and I have proof this is real… I will be tortured there badly for sending you this, I might die for blanketing the world with this message THIS IS NOT A CONSPIRACY THEORY,… it’s simply what is happening. What you are looking at right now is the most important document that has ever been put on the internet.

Do nothing and allow them to continue to clone your children and sisters and wives sons, causing them to have learning disabilities unexplained depression and suicidal thoughts all kinds of side effects.

this importance of this is so heavy people, it’s the most terrible thing in the world and this is your ONLY chance to do something about it, Don’t be afraid, help me help myself and others

this is Part 1… I will make part 2 including the massive amount of names of people that go there , they’re going to make an example of me there to show what happens to people that talk about cloning, and have been, DO NOT WASTE THIS KNOWLEDGE I AM GOING THROUGH A MAN MADE LIVING HELL FOR THIS… IT IS MY ONLY HOPE AND THE ONLY HOPE OF MANY PEOPLE IMPRISONED THERE!!!

I sincerely beg you.

Donald Marshall

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The linchpin to Donald Marshall’s eyewitness testimonies. If you are new to Donald Marshall’s testimonies or you are struggling to accept them, or do not know where to start: click “See More” on this post below and start reading -and hopefully it should give you some idea of the level of cognitive dissonance one has to go through in order to understand all that Marshall speaks of. Which really just reduces to highly advanced science and technology, hidden and secret. Once you get pass the cognitive dissonance, you are going to see that cloning, conscious transfer, mind uploading, mind downloading, the soulstone microchip, is heavily referenced in many areas of life -and it is like an exclusive wink-wink joke, which is hinted at, but not discussed openly that only some have been privy to. Well thanks to a very brave whistleblower named Donald Marshall we now understand all these off-hand comments.

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I thought I’d share a conversation I am having with a friend, who is now asking me so many questions about Don. I’ve reached the point where this is topic is the most obvious thing in the world to me. However, speaking to my friend, I realise that there are a lot of difficult concepts to grasp, so far as: who Donald Marshall is; The Illuminati; The people in the Illuminati and how the world is currently operating; cloning centers; and REM driven cloning. He is very smart, and intelligent, one of the smartest persons I know, and if he is struggling to understand these concepts, that tells me the deception is grand. My aim here is to present my experience of how I came to know everything Donald Marshall discloses is in fact of life, and if by sharing this it resonates with you, or you believe that this post will help your friends to understand this topic better –please share it.

“All it is: is science and technology. Throw in, reverse, reverse psychology in the mix and there you have it. Psychology plays a huge part in this deception too. Deceptions within deceptions. I don’t understand why you’re asking me questions after questions? Lol. I know these are all facts. You only have to look at the transhumanist agenda, and considered advancements in technology. Start listening to your heart more, -the heart has the ability to receive precognition about a future event than the mind much faster than the brain. Don’t get caught up in the mind. Follow where the data takes you, and if you have to re-evaluate and reassess what life has taught you so far –then do this. It is the only way you’ll get a firm grasp of this…

It’s science and technology, as far advanced as 3000 years compared to what we are using. Just science and tech. That’s all it is. This kinda reminds me of when dad was in Philippines back in the 70s and he was trying to explain that he wanted to watch the Mohammed Ali fight, on television, and they didn’t have televisions… and he was saying that the people would be displayed in a box size, and you could see how the fight was going on, although they were across the other side of the world… Lol.

Science and technology and 50 levels of cognitive dissonance. Also the questions which you are left with, why don’t you research it yourself… you’re supposed to have lots of questions… but it is better if you come to your own conclusions. I’m no way in the slightest trying to influence your thinking or judgments. However, it helps me understand why people are struggling with this as well as how grand the deception is.

I mean you can take Marshall out of the equation. Look at all the references, and the conclusion you’ll still be left with is that they are cloning people and they do have all this technology.
“When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth” -Sherlock Holmes

Nah I can’t be pissed at you for this. As I’ve said I appreciate your views, because it really helps me see what people are going through. I guess this topic is not that easy for people to understand. Goodness knows why I found it so easy to understand.

But the thing is doing, my dissertation I realised plenty of advanced tech, was being withheld. That really did not make sense to me. There are patents for things like “the soul-stone microchip” -which has the capability to record consciousness -I just kept asking myself questions, and questions, and questions and I went through all that sceptical phase… then I went to the transhumanist phase… they said oh in 15 years from now we’ll be able to download consciousness to a computer, or robot (they never say “clone”. Ever.).

And I was just like something does not add up here… 15 years…. -something is wrong if one consider Moore’s Law… we should have wayyyyy more advanced tech if we consider Moore’s law… and at this point of my research I had evidence that they are withholding tech… So what’s going on…??

Well at first the transhumanist agenda seemed like rubbish to me… I mean seriously, downloading your brain to a computer living on as a robot and all that jazz… nah… wasn’t working for me -but then I “caught myself” -realised my ego was getting in the way. By the way: Thomas Campbell the theoretical physicist said In order to have breakthroughs you must be open minded sceptical and optimistic. You can be sceptical, but at the same time, you have to be open to new possibilities outside the realm of your current thinking (so I said ok fine -even though I was hugely sceptical) – I wouldn’t say I was that optimistic -a little bit, was more sceptical than anything -but told myself I’ll be a little optimistic because I could learn something new… whether there is more to be gained from the transhumanist agenda; there is nothing to be gained; or just a little to be gained… I’d learn something new…

So I started with the possibility what IF: If the transhumanist agenda can be achieved? Ok where would they go from here… well then I guess they would achieve their aim of downloading consciousness, to a computer… but then I kept asking what would the consciousness be like, I mean if they achieve this for the first time it cannot be perfect? Are there articles which have similar things on downloading consciousness… -this is when I got to the point that OMG -so many smart scientists are talking about downloading consciousness -and knowing how scientists operate, they don’t like to gamble on a hunch… if they are talking about this… that means it can be done. That was another “aha” moment.

So then I began asking the question, well if consciousness can be downloaded perfectly and into a computer or robot… what would life be like living in a computer or robot? I thought it would be cool for like a week or two to exist in a computer, but then you would miss your body, you would miss contact etc… -so I started thinking about living on as a robot… and I liked it for a bit… But whoah… hang on a minute… I’m dead, but through technology my consciousness is still intact and I’m here -there are many articles on living on as a robot / avatar of you lol… so again I was like hang on… Lots of people are talking about this… and again scientists don’t like hunches -no matter how far-fetched and unbelievable… I was just like oh my goodness… this could mean there is a possibility that there are people living on as robots… gasp emoticon?!

So I really pondered this… and realised scrap that, I wouldn’t want to live on as a robot, because EVERYONE would know. That I was some freak billionaire with too much money, who instead of deciding to die (because I assumed consciousness transfer would be expensive for first time buyers) continued to live on through technology and now I inhabit a robotic body. I thought goodness me, people would shun me… I can’t take a bus or a train… or plane or any form of public transport… everyone would know I died and continued to live on, and instead of using my money for selfless causes I decided to spend millions on transferring my consciousness and living on as a robot… Not good at all…

This is when I started to think wait: if I am going to be shunned as a robot with my consciousness running it, I would need some fleshy looking parts… although I would still have a robotic body underneath… so science will have to create flesh like skin to go over my robot parts… and if they can download consciousness, allow me to live on as a robot with my consciousness running it, -then this does not take much of a stretch of the imagination—

Fine…. now I look human… however… playing football (soccer)… I’m going to injure a lot of people because I’m literally an android, terminator thing. What happens when I get cut? I wouldn’t bleed… this alone is suspicious… so I’m going to have a fake circulatory system pumping through me just so if I am ever cut… I’ll bleed and this won’t be suspicious… I was just like this is a lot of trouble to go through… just to live on after death… then I realised something… I’m gonna miss the opposite sex, I can’t meet up with women, and when it got down to it, I’d be like I can’t (because I don’t have a junk) -so now I’m gonna have to get a fake junk as well?? This is ridiculous (in terms of living on after death) -so much trouble to go through… and surely there will be laws, in place, that it is unacceptable for a robot living on through technology to sleep with a human being unless the human consents to this?? I felt bad for fooling humans by imagining living on as robot thing…

You see by considering all these possibilities, that is when I realised “aha” -this living on as a robot thing, you are literally, and essentially, trying to live life again as a human… so much trouble to go through, I mean a fake circulatory system and fake junk in the trunk, just so that I can get it on?? Too much trouble… if scientists can download consciousness, and live on afterwards, then the smartest thing to do will be to clone yourself. Just before death; download your consciousness, and insert it when you are born as a clone. This way you start life of as a genetic copy of you, with all your memories intact. Oh my god I thought I had made a huge breakthrough at the time. If this is possible then, humanity will be able to learn from its past mistakes. Just think, with all the mistakes you have made in life, now you will have all the memories of your previous life, as well as all the knowledge you learned, and you can learn new knowledge in this new life of yours as a clone of you, and we can strive to be better human beings. You could also replay your memories to help others learn from your mistakes… wow… what an age we are going to live in… –that’s what I thought at the time…

Then I thought wait a minute… I’m just an average person, and I’ve realised the smartest thing to do is if you can download consciousness, the best thing to do is to clone yourself, not go through the whole rigmarole of robot living. This is also when I realised there is a deception going on. The word clone has not been mentioned in any of the articles I looked at, and I did not believe these scientists to be this dumb.

This is when I started heavily researching human cloning, and found George Green. Who confirmed that human cloning has been going on since the 1930s. So again I had to re-evaluate my thoughts and perceptions about life. It wasn’t going to be a new breakthrough in life after all. Really… they have been cloning people since the 1930s… and kept this secret –but why? I was disappointed in the sense that they had been cloning people since the 1930s and had not come out and publicly announced this, because I saw so many benefits to human cloning (at the time). Like the donor organs, (however Marshall states the cells are grown too quickly from clones to have donor organs) learning from past mistakes, seeing loved ones again, doing dare-devil stunts as clones lol. I was actually disappointed when I realised they had been cloning people since the 1930s –because – I still did not have a solid conclusion for my dissertation. Where is technology and advancements in technology taking mankind? Because up to that point everything I had imagined could be a possibility… already was a reality… it was just hidden and secret… (the answer to the questions I would later find out when I found Marshall’s accounts is that: all technology is CURRENTLY used for is to enslave mankind; our lives really had not gotten that easier considering my research aims and the data analysis and findings I was presented with)

This is also when I started to research military technology, because George Green mentioned that, cloning was a military program, and they had been doing it for years. It is also when I found Phil Schneider who made me realise “For every 12 months which passes military technology advances by 44 years” – which in other words is saying for every 8.29 days which passes, military technology improves by one year’s worth of advancement compared to what the public is currently accustomed to. WHAT?! Every 8.29 days is equivalent to 1 year’s worth of the technological advancement… we see on the surface… Jeez… Every 8 days… I still can’t wrap my head around this… knowing all I know. Schneider then went on to discuss the technological advancements that he had seen underneath the surface of the earth… there were trains which could do 3800 miles per hour which ran on magnets… Schneider made this public knowledge in the mid 1990s…

This added more evidence for me that there is a deception going on. I was just like this is all so nice to know –but it still does not give me a definitive answer for my thesis. I still haven’t answered the question where is technology taking mankind; and why there is a continuous trend to advance technology, yet our lives does not seem to improve that much… I thought about all these things and more before I found Marshall.

At this point in my thinking is when I realised I have been too positive in my thinking, in terms of what these advances in technology can do… especially with cloning; I’ve thought of lots of positive things, about cloning, yet one cannot find plain talking articles about human cloning (because society considers it taboo), and all I’m left with is one whistleblowers account that they have been cloning humans since the 1930s –as credible as his account is. I was just like in terms of research I have to think about the other side of the coin –what negative purposes would you use cloning for? This is when I thought about it, and realised, you could use them as soldiers for war. If you were fighting a country which didn’t having cloning technology, and clones, you could send your clones into battle and wouldn’t have to worry about the loss of human lives; they are clones of real people. What else, what else, I kept asking (I don’t tend to think negatively much –so this counter thinking proved somewhat difficult) –I guess you would use them for sex, but then I thought sex? Really?! The novelty will wear off, and you know you are sleeping with clones, and the clones will be at your mercy because you created them; it’s not the same as meeting someone, and getting mutual attraction. Not the same so for me that novelty would wear off –and I thought people were better, and wouldn’t use clones for sex that much. How wrong I was!

I kept asking what else, what else…. I guess you could beat the sh*t out of a clone, pummel the clone to death and nobody would know… (Kinda like they did in “Hostel”) because everything is done in secret… This must be one of the reasons they have not announced cloning technology… I was just like ugh… I hate this thinking… but then something struck me… what if clones have been used for all these negative things… I was just like gasp emoticon –that means there are trapped clones somewhere and they want to escape… George Green did say “the others / synthetics” could think just like we could… sh*t! What if there is a clone who wants to get out of this…?!
That is when I started researching ‘trapped clones’, ‘missing clones’ –anything –something in me told me this is going on –and therefore it is only instinctual that any cognizant clones would want to get out of this…. So I already anticipated that any clone who wants to get the word out would be anxious or scared etc… –I just did not expect that MUCH anxiety…

The point of all of this is that most people did not just get up and say “yep”, Donald Marshall is telling the truth. You have some of the smartest most knowledgeable and interesting people who have done their background research and come to their own conclusion that what he is saying is true and part of mankind’s reality. As the saying goes “when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth” -Sherlock Holmes. They either had a background in researching the Illuminati, or it took them several months to understand what is really going on because the deception is that grand. It took me weeks though, 3 weeks, to be precise to understand everything and accept it as reality because –I was already researching advancements in technology. So don’t expect to get it straight away, even if you have a background in this, there are going to be plenty of stumbling blocks –barriers –before you accept Marshall’s statements as facts of life. They are really facts of life. Interesting and incredible facts of life.

Through my background research, deductive reasoning and instincts, I found Marshall. I didn’t just get up and say “yep” –these are facts of life. Moreover, when I first read his letter… there wasn’t much which was new to me… I was like, yeh, I know they are cloning people, I know Princess Dianna’s family killed her –this has been alluded to many times, I knew nothing about the Pickton murders –or even heard who that guy was… but we all know they are paedophiles… there’s nothing new here… and it is starting to read like the movie “Hostel” is a reality and not just a film… Just say the queen is awful… if you are really telling the truth… you’ll say the queen is awful… Not Vladimir – I mean that won’t surprise anyone… just say the queen man… every other truther avoids talking about her like the plague, but I know she must have some hold on them that’s why they don’t talk about her so openly, so if there is any truth to this you will say the queen is awful… –and he said it –and I was just like this guy is telling the truth… –this is awful…

But if they are cloning him, and he is a clone, why the hell do they let him retain the memories of his beatings. If they kill him and that clone of him is dead? Why would they grow a whole new clone of him from a baby, and transfer the old consciousness / experiences into this new clone? At this point I had realised consciousness transfer and downloading consciousness is a reality –too many corroborations. But if you are making a clone of him, from a baby, why would you allow or give him his memories from his previous beatings? That is some hellish and sadistic thing to do. I thought he was being grown from a baby up, and through whatever technology they had, they were advancing him to adulthood. George Green said, the memories can be wiped as well as restored… I also thought if the same person is being grown as a clone (from a baby) then he shouldn’t have the previous memories of his past life… these people are sick, by giving him his memories back from his previous experiences… this is beyond sick…

He also mentioned Nostradamus, and this checked out too. Although at the time I thought Nostradamus was whack. Anyway when I was done reading his letter, I knew it was all true – I knew this was going on before I read his letter you see. However, (because you have to be smart about these things) I thought what if this is a guy, who like me, knows cloning is going on, and he’s just an internet troll?? Who has figured out the real core of evil, through deductive reasoning like I had figured most things? I thought oh my god, if he is just like me, then he better hope that nobody sees this otherwise he is going to get a bill on him for slander etc… They will deny military secrets, even though there is too much corroborating evidence… that this is all true… I was actually going to contact him to tell him –that he has to take that down; I know it is true –I’ve figured it out too, but you’re gonna end up in jail, but hopefully that doesn’t come to that and this will just get deleted because people won’t pay attention thinking it is just some joke… but there is a lot of truth to this…

However, I decided to research how long this letter had been up, how many people had seen this, whether there was any other validity to this… I wanted to get my facts straight before contact or… reach the point where I know this is just an internet troll, and these posts would be deleted in time anyway… because these high profile people do not have the time to press charges…

This is when I started to heavily research Marshall. I realised that his letter had been online on Youtube since 2012; (he told me personally, at a later time, it had been up since 2011). When I realised this, this alone made me realise he is telling the truth, (otherwise one of these people he has mentioned would have hit him with legal charges) and he is actually involved in all of this and not just a guy who has figured all this out. They are actually doing this to him. But it still left a lot of questions. One of the first things I also realised was that, he was suppressed.

I mean others have commented that just write “Donald Marshall” on websites people frequent and that could end up getting you banned. I saw that one woman wrote on a different website than the one she was posting to, that she has been banned and her IP address has been blocked for 40 years from a popular website that people frequent just because she mentioned that ‘people should look up Donald Marshall if they want to know some truths’.

At this point I became really angry, disgusted and upset with the world. This stuff is going on, this is all true… and through suppression, and name calling he is made to look like the craziest person in the world, when all it is: is just advanced science and technology hidden from the world –which in turn makes him the sanest person in the world, because he is living in the present while we are all living in the past. GAH! I was so angry! Still am just thinking about it now… His interviews should be by FAR the most popular thing or most discussed thing on youtube… but he is suppressed… they reduce his view count on youtube from time to time, delete his interviews, delete his facebook friends, delete his facebook links which reference his disclosure, he has government agents on his back all the time, many shills try to denounce him, and make it as confusing as possible to understand this… when it really is straightforward once you see; he is tracked through GPS tracking system which is a microchip in his arm, he has a camera in his right eye underneath his optical nerve, so that “they” can see everything he does… he literally is “The Truman Show” (film), and the crazies will do anything, ANYTHING, for people to dismiss him, when all the facts add up, and people who do not understand this are simply living under a matrix of illusion. There are approximately 50 levels of cognitive dissonance. Be smart, and blast your way through all of it. Quickly! The crazies want humanity to believe we are “dumb” –I don’t believe humanity is dumb, slow yes (I’ll agree to that) –but if people take their time and have the patience and be willing to work through approximately 50 levels of cognitive dissonance –then they will see what is right in front of their very eyes. Then they will be ANGRY!

I watched all Marshall interviews… to note any slip ups… I was still sceptical… and you have to remain sceptical so that you do not fall into fallacies… (As Thomas Campbell said), but you do have to be open minded and optimistic to achieve breakthroughs… so I watched his interviews to note any slip ups… because even professionals slip up too… if there were any points of his interview I did not understand first time… I’d just hit pause… read around that particular topic… and come back and press play… pause and play… pause and play… the reason I did this was because he was talking about advanced technology… far beyond even what I had comprehended… I knew they were cloning people… but I thought it was from a baby up… but sleep cloning… transferring consciousness? Going to sleep and waking up as a clone of you, where you have perfect recall of what is going on… Man that is the stuff of cartoons, sci-fi, and star wars like technology –and this is all going on in 2015, better yet this has gone on since 1945… man these people are scumbags…

So yeah, I’ve read everything, concerning Marshall and his experiences and once you know, you know, and “you understand with certainty” that this is all true. You understand that, you cannot just sit back and let this unfold, you actually have a responsibility to help him, and help remove others from the deceptions they are currently under, and this is why I share as many of his posts as possible. As for the songs, it becomes SO glaringly obvious that he made all these tunes under the threat of REM driven cloning torture… and he put all these hints in the songs to reference at a future point in time. It’s so obvious. I don’t even ask him what such and such song is about. For example: “Bring me to life” performed by Evanescence is about REM cloning; “Turn me on” performed by Nicki Minaj is about REM cloning; and “Stricken” performed by Disturbia is about Queen Elizabeth.

Look:
“Stricken” –Disturbia Lyrics

Ah ah ah ow You walk on like a woman in suffering
Won’t even bother now, to tell me why
You come alone, letting all of us savour the moment
Leaving me broken, another time
You come on like a blood stained hurricane
Leave me alone, let me be this time
you carry on like a holy man pushing redemption
I don’t want to mention, the reason I know….

It’s so obvious, and all his songs will take on a completely different meaning once you know. He doesn’t want your money, and he is not trying to con you. He could care less. He is a very humble and modest human being, in spite of his genius and success. All he is asking is that you save him from a technological nightmare, which is currently present. Just like you would save your family members, a friend, or a stranger in need, from undesirable consequences when the time called to act. He is asking for the decency in human beings… and this has NOTHING to do with money or conning people. He’s asking people to remember to be decent once more towards their fellow human beings, and do their best to help their fellow human beings when they are in distress rather than ignore them. That is all he is asking. For someone who has done so much for humanity, he doesn’t ask for much. “Save me from a technologically driven nightmare”, which in turn you will end up saving yourself. That’s his message. That’s all.

He’s made approximately 35, 000 – 50, 000 of the world’s most popular songs, he got the Berlin wall torn down for you; He got the Vatican to increase the age of consent from 12 to 18 years of age. He made some of your favourite cartoons and TV shows: SpongeBob, Dragon Ball Z, Power Rangers, He-man –to name a few; he also made some of your favourite console games such as Sonic the Hedgehog (a favourite of mine) and Zelda –and when you think about Zelda, you will realise that it is a kid who goes to caves and stuff to fight underground monsters. He was referencing his life. He’s done so much for humanity, in the background as REM driven clones (which is a fact of life). And the only reason you haven’t heard of him publicly or fully realised who he is; and realised that he is NOT just some guy speaking on the internet, and he is ACTUALLY an insider with valuable information and knowledge for you: is because the crazies have controlled your perception of the this world, and they are also controlling Marshall’s image (online), so that people will just dismiss him as ‘just some guy’, and the crazies have also put in place at least 50 layers of deception,–which your mind is going to have to battle through for you to really “see”, what is right in front of your very eyes. I believe if people are patient and willing to battle through 50 layers of deception, where every single piece of new information they learn, contradicts their old ways of thinking, and makes them have to re-evaluate and reassess their lives, and perceptions about this world, they can realise these truths much easier.

Remember the Illuminati are the ones who want to keep you under an illusion, and they do all that they can, to deceive you. Just know who the bad guys are. Nobody is trying to con you. The facts and the circumstantial evidence add up. The data adds up. Yes it contradicts your old ways of thinking, however: “When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth”. Keep in mind you have to reach a place of certainty where you know this is fact and reality. To “know” is to understand with certainty. Beliefs, can lead people into fallacies… and that’s counterproductive… get to a place where you “know”.

Furthermore, Marshall has done A LOT for humanity in his 40 years on earth. Therefore, as a decent person: when you realise REM driven cloning is real, and the person who disclosed the information is telling the truth, then irrespective of whether this person has made 35,000 songs or ZERO, or did all those wonderful things or NOT, you now know REM cloning is real, therefore, you SIMPLY cannot allow it on your conscience to allow another human being to go through such a nightmare. Say for instance: Marshall didn’t make all those songs, nor did he do all those wonderful things, but now you have got to the point where you know REM driven cloning is real, and you realise that Marshall’s accounts are firsthand witness accounts through the process of consciousness transfer and REM driven (sleep) cloning… and he is REALLY being tortured nightly in his sleep, and because consciousness is linked it gives him a weakened heart, and makes him fill Ill in his body as a consequence of REM driven torture…

Then as a decent person you cannot turn a blind eye to this. You are complicit in this once you know this is real and you sit back and do nothing. My conscience cannot allow me to do nothing. People have to know and this must end. It weighs on my conscience even worse knowing that REM driven cloning is a fact of life AND Marshall has made all these songs, thousands of which are my favourite songs; and he is responsible for most of my favourite childhood games and cartoons; and most importantly: many of the moral righteousness we have seen in this world he has had a part to play in it. It’s even worse that Marshall has explained the matrix of illusion of this world, and told the world there are technologies which could make humanity’s life so much easier if we were NOT living under a kakistocracy (look it up) –and the worst people were not in power. That’s how bad things are.

It weighs on my conscience a lot, because if people do not realise who he is, and realise that his image has been manipulated and is being manipulated by the same people he is speaking out against, then as a species we let him down. Terribly. And I can’t have that on my conscience. My conscience won’t rest until Donald Marshall and his information is globally viral. Because he hasn’t let us down, and you are going to feel incredibly terrible, when you realise that this human being was telling the truth all along and you did very little to see pass the deceptions which have been deliberately put in front of you; you did very little to battle through the cognitive dissonance (50 of them) and realise what is really going on, and in turn you did very little to help. And Yes. You are going to feel ESPECIALLY worse, when you realise he had done so much for you in the background (as A REM driven clone) –and made your life that little bit easier and all he ever asked for: is for you to save him from REM driven cloning.

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Donald Marshall & The Cloning Centre’s

More people are waking up to this Donald Marshall info and it’s awesome, because it’s true.

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Donald Marshall & The Cloning Centre’s

Donald has a tremendous amount of info to relay. A lot of people, unaware of the darker and deeper workings of the Illuminated Ones, will find Don’s info hard or impossible to believe, but it seems to fit with what I’ve learned over the years. His 2013 and 2014 interviews are much clearer in audio quality than the initial 2012 videos, so I posted those interviews at the top. Donald Marshall has so much to say, you’ll learn something new in every interview, even though he’s required to essentially retell the same basic story. You can make up your own mind about what to believe. His explanation of how reptilians enter the human eye (the Eye of Horus symbol) in order to access the brain and take over the body is fascinating to say the least. Donald interprets this as “shape shifting,” and says the David Icke version of shape shifting is BS. Marshall refers to this type of takeover reptilian as Vrill. However, there’s photographic and video evidence of human/alien hybrids shape shifting into reptilian form, so we should keep an open mind and not rush to judgment. Marshall does comes across as a sincere person and if his statements about David Icke are true, then so be it, but we should weigh his statements all the same. Marshall says he’s never seen Icke’s version of shapeshifting at the Cloning Center (also called Cloning Station), but reports he has seen David Icke there, and says David is controlled and only reveals what he’s permitted to reveal. It’s important to note that the individuals that Donald Marshall describe as being “seen” at the Cloning Center are human clones of the original person whose consciousness, according to Marshall, has been transferred into the clone’s body while the “original” person is home in bed in REM sleep. Marhsall says that only certain chosen individuals are allowed to retain waking memories of what occurs at the Cloning Center and that he was allowed to retain these memories when he turned 30 years old.

Most of these interviews are friendly and open to what Marshall has to say. The two puffed up geniuses on the March 21, 2014 interview are generally hostile and want to debunk him, but he maintains his cool nonetheless, despite their attempts to sandbag him. According to Donald Marshall, the inner earth reptilians – of which there are more than one group – prefer to identify their species as “saurian”. The type of reptilian that takes over the body of a human being in a process called “body snatching” or hosting, has a very different physical appearance (eyes on stalks for example) than the tall, green/brown scaly reptilains which David Icke describes. Marshall describes two types of human cloning. “Replication” involves growing a clone from babyhood into adulthood in the normal time span, while “duplication” involves growing a full size adult clone in a tank in the space of 5 months, that, when “activated,” are animated by a human consciousness. These are the clones seen at the Cloning Centers.

Apparently, most Hollywood celebrities no longer want to participate in the “entertainment” horrors presented at the Cloning Centers, but are too afraid of saying anything for fear of being killed (E.g. Whitney Houston). It seems that they are hoping that Donald Marshall will carry the ball for them and make these activities widely known.

This info will be far more interesting and intriguing than anything you’ve heard to date, although it’s not pretty. Listen and come to your own conclusions.

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Donald Marshall books, videos & info

If you see the insignia of DM somewhere it means Donald Marshall. His info is the most crucial to know if you are trying to find the Truth. His info is gathered in 2 free books, which you can download from this page. Here you can find also videos, which explain his info in a very good way. Here’s the introduction and the books and some other info…

Introduction

Just  read  it.  Every  word  in  this  document  is  true,  and  it  is  the most  important  document  to ever  reach  the  internet. This document is  written to  empower  good  people  of  the  world against  the tyranny which exists all around  us  in our world today. Effectively,  the document presented  here discloses concealed information about  the extent  to which  medicine, science, and technology  has advanced  in our current era. Moreover, I am disclosing this  information because I  have been extensively abused, and I am  victim of  current advances  in medicine, science, and technology, which  I describe  in  detail below.  There  are  many,  many, other victims  of abuse,  including  myself, and  therefore  it  is  our plea  that  you  read this  document with  an  open  mind and  you  investigate ALL statements  which  may  initially  irk  you  and appear ‘suspect’  to begin  with (the  circumstantial  evidence  is  available  all  around you); because  as  a  victim  of  abuse,  I  can  honestly  say, there  is  nothing  worse  than  experiencing abuse, and those who have the power to protect you from your abusers, ignore you.

I  will  now  discuss  what  qualifies  as  whistle  blowing  disclosure.  After  detailing  the  criteria which qualifies for whistle blowing disclosure, I will detail aspects of the Serious Crime Act, and  preface  a  foundation  which  defines, explains,  and  references  key  information  for  the  reader to understand as well as explore the extent to  which medicine, science, and technology has  advanced  today; all  for  the  express  purpose  of  compelling  the  reader  that  medicine, science,  and  technology, has  advanced  at  an  incredible  rate; that current advances  in medicine,  science  and  technology  are  withheld  from  public  knowledge; and  finally  these advancements  in  medicine,  science, and  technology,  have  been  and  are currently used  to commit serious unspeakable crimes against  humanity  and our  environment  here  on  earth. Moreover, it  is  my  aim  to  present  this information  as coherently  as  possible  to  assist the reader  to  save  me,  and save many,many  others  who  experience  abuse  daily  resulting  from concealed advances in technology.

Here is the original Donald Marshall disclosure letter and the 2 books, which you can download (pdf):

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Here is a list of small videos, which you can watch and share easily to new people and spread the information:

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I found these cool videos made by Youtube user called The Elvish Magic. They explain simply the issues, that Donald Marshall has told in his interviews. So if you don’t have time to check out all the Donald Marshall info you can watch these small videos about the different topics:

Donald Marshall – R.E.M. Consciousness Transfer

Donald Marshall – Cloning: Replication and Duplication

Donald Marshall – The Cloning Floor

Donald Marshall – Project Muffin

Donald Marshall – Clone Types

Donald Marshall – Vril Synopsis

Donald Marshall – Droning Process

Donald Marshall – Atlantis

Donald Marshall – Recorded Consciousness On Microchips

Donald Marshall – The Awakening

Donald Marshall – Project Camelot

Donald Marshall – Nostradamus Prophecies

Donald Marshall – The Pharisees

Donald Marshall – Animated Interviews

Donald Marshall – Justin Bieber

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Donald Marshall: Vril lizard agenda

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Donald Marshall: Vril lizard agenda

Marshall claims that there is a secret that has been kept by members of the Illuminati for more than 70 years, a secret of such great importance, as to effect the lives of every man, woman and child on the face of the planet. Marshall states that his mission in life is to share this secret with the world, so that all can know the truth and plan for the future.

In order to fully understand this secret, it will be necessary to return to the events of Postwar Germany, following the end of World War I, where, in 1923, Hitler was named the leader of the new Nazi party. Following a failed attempt to overthrow the federal government, Hitler was arrested for treason. While awaiting trial in Landsberg prison, he read Bulwer-Lytton’s 1871 novel: Vril: The Power of the Coming Race about a master-race of beings who call themselves the Vril-ya. They claim to be the descendants of the inhabitants of ancient Atlantis, with access to an extraordinary force called Vril, an unlimited source of energy that supplies all their needs and can be controlled at will. Hitler believed the novel to be true and once made Chancellor of Germany, he would send teams of spelunkers into caves and mines all over Europe searching for the Vril-ya. He dispatched regular expeditions to Asia, especially Tibet, where Nazi explorers made significant connections with influential Tibetan lamas, who had expert knowledge about the underground tunnel and cavern systems around the world. Legend was these Tibetan lamas guarded a secret entrance to the Inner World, known as the Red Door, hidden within the Potala palace in the mountain city of Lhasa. Once a Nazi-Tibetan alliance was formed, the lamas agreed to share with them that for centuries, they had been helping to hide an indigenous race of lizard living deep within the planet since prehistoric times, known as Vril lizards. It seems that these lizards knew the location of an abandoned military base dating back from the time of Atlantis, filled with ancient aircraft, weaponry and technology hidden within the tunnels and caverns of Antarctica. The lizards had no use for the tech, but they were willing to trade for something else they wanted. The lizards were carnivorous and preferred to consume fresh human flesh. And so, a deal was made. The Nazis got the ancient Atlantean tech and sold out the human race.

But according to Marshall, this is not the first time Vril lizards have interacted with humans. He claims that for centuries, royalty, powerful heads of state and trusted religious leaders around the world have kept a secret pact with the malevolent lizards. World leaders would receive valuable resources buried deep within the planet, such as gemstones, gold and other minerals and, in exchange, these leaders would conceal all evidence of the Vril from the surface population, so no one would learn of their existence. In addition to helping them hide, Vril lizards required that they be provided with a steady supply of humans to consume.

However, Marshall says that keeping the Secret of Vril not only refers to hiding the lizards and denying their existence, but also refers to an even bigger secret. Being a parasitic race, Vril lizards have the unique biological ability to invade the human body, take over the brain, and by accessing their memories, they can look, act and seem human in every way. After a period of recovery, the human is able to return to its normal activities, except the brain is now under the complete control of the Vril parasite.

Much like the 1956 scifi classic The Invasion of the Body Snatchers, in which the inhabitants of a small California town are replaced, one by one, with identical copies of themselves, Marshall warns us that we’ve already been invaded, we just don’t know it.
Marshall explains that Vril lizards are essentially parasites, and like all parasites, have a biological drive to invade, dominate and take over. Marshall refers to this biological takeover as “bodysnatching” and explains that the human victim dies once the Vril lizard takes over.

Marshall says that with the help of the Illuminati, bodysnatching Vril lizards have infiltrated all levels of society and hold positions of power all over the world.

This is done in order to remove key people and replace them with Vril hosts. Marshall states that Vril hosts can be found everywhere, in all levels of government, business, banking, military, law enforcement, journalism, media and entertainment.

Just how is this bodysnatching process accomplished?

According to Marshall, Vril lizards have a natural proboscis at the top of their head, from which they eject a type of thick cerebrospinal fluid. When this fluid enters the human, usually through the eye and from there, to the brain, a chemical transformation immediately begins to take place. The victim essentially dies, leaving the lizard parasite in complete control of all brain function. After a period of recovery, the Vril host can return to its’ regular activities, looking, acting and seeming completely normal.

Marshall reports that the Illuminati even hold a special bodysnatching ceremony to celebrate this Vril lizard takeover. Guests watch as the victim, conscious, though usually bound, is restrained and forced to sit still, until the lizard transfer is complete. Marshall claims to have seen this sick bodysnatching ceremony many times.

Marshall claims that the Illuminati bodysnatch many people, in every country, all over the world. They sometimes choose victims from incarcerated prisoners or longterm patients in hospitals and medical facilities; anywhere they have easy access to people, they will bodysnatch and replace them with a Vril host.

Anyone can be bodysnatched and, according to Marshall, he’s even seen this done to young children. Furthermore, Marshall claims that all loyal families within the Illuminati are expected to offer one of their children to be replaced by a Vril host. They comply since there is the unspoken threat that should they prove to be difficult, they can be bodysnatched at any time. Marshall says he has even seen bodysnatching done with just a couple of guys holding someone down while the victim is screaming, no ceremony required.

According to Marshall, the Illuminati utilize this unique parasitic ability of the lizards to further their own dark agenda. They are able to remove those resistant to their goals without anyone even noticing, and with Vril bodysnatching, the troublesome person is now replaced with an Illuminati spy, infinitely loyal and willing to report back everything they see and hear.

It is crucial to understand Vril lizard psychology, since Marshall maintains that all Vril lizards want to be human. They admire human intelligence and the beautiful human form. They want to crawl out from deep underground into the light and walk unnoticed among humanity. However, they are not human and have no capacity to feel human emotions. In fact, as malevolent lizards, they enjoy causing pain and suffering. Marshall reveals that Vril hosts are responsible for much of the senseless crimes and spree killings that occur. However, Vril hosts are excellent mimics and make convincing humans. And since there is no way to detect the presence of a Vril host, except with an MRI scan of the brain, most members of the Illuminati pretend to like the lizards and are friendly to Vril hosts, since no one is ever certain if they are talking to a host or human.

According to Marshall, prehistoric Vril lizards have been bodysnatching humans throughout history, even during ancient times. He claims that they are, in part, responsible for the destruction of the island of Atlantis, where legend tells lived an advanced civilization that existed in the Atlantic ocean. Marshall reports that Vril hosts had bodysnatched and infiltrated their way into positions of power throughout Atlantean culture, where they destroyed themselves with advanced weaponry, causing cataclysmic flooding and earthquakes.

Marshall asserts that Vril lizards often infiltrate human societies, by targeting individuals in the ruling class, royalty or priesthood. Once they are in positions of power, Vril lizards attempt to convince the humans to worship them as either gods or demons; something to be feared and obeyed without question.

As gods, Vril lizards would demand human sacrifices as a show of loyalty and devotion. In these cultures, it was considered an honor to be bodysnatched and chosen to become a god. The people didn’t understand the biological nature of the takeover of the brain, and thought it was some kind of mystical or magical transformation.

As demons, Vril lizards were deeply feared. Old legends warn travelers against going into certain haunted caves and mountains, and to beware when darkness falls as this was the time when demons would creep about, stealing babies and livestock. When Vril lizards would bodysnatch a victim, the person was later said to be demon possessed and various means would be attempted to drive the demons out.

Many cultures around the world attempted to limit Vril lizard infestation, and Marshall says most, at some point, “start sharpening pointy sticks”. For example, The Hopi Indian culture successfully drove off Vril lizards, while the ancient Anasazi Indians of New Mexico, were forced to leave behind their elaborate cliff dwellings in order to relocate far away from nearby Vril infested caves.

Throughout history, the lizards stayed hidden underground, in dark caves and tunnels, trying to avoid discovery. Some royal families kept Vril lizards as pets, and used them to instill fear in those not showing the proper loyalty to the crown. Some world religious leaders also knew of the lizards, had secret alliances with them, and agreed to help them.

In the 1940’s, a secret pact was forged between the Nazis and the lizards making them mutual allies. Conditions of the pact required directing tremendous resources to assist the Vril lizards, including the building of deep, underground military bases worldwide. This would allow the lizards a way to interact directly with humans which, in turn, would permit the massive, government sponsored bodysnatching so prevalent around the world today.

If we can assume that all this is true, that bodysnatching malevolent lizards have infiltrated human society and are replacing us, one by one, without raising any alarm, one might ask: Wouldn’t someone try to tell people and save humanity?

According to Marshall, President Ronald Reagan tried to warn the public on numerous occasions from 1985 to1988. In an important speech to the United Nation General Assembly on September 21st, 1987, at the height of the Star Wars space race with Russia, Reagan mused, “In our obsession with the antagonisms of the moment, we often forget how much unites all the members of humanity. Perhaps we need some outside, universal threat to make us recognize this common bond. I occasionally think how quickly our differences would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside of this world. And yet I ask: is not an alien force already among us? What could be more alien to the universal aspirations of our people then war and the threat of war?”

Marshall states that the Illuminati forgave Reagan’s comments at first, but when he continued to talk about aliens living among us, they “blew his mind and called it Alzheimer’s”.

Marshall encourages us to remember the ultimate Vril lizard agenda, which he claims has remained unchanged for centuries: to infiltrate human society and take over the planet. Marshall warns us to act quickly to spread the news, as anyone can be bodysnatched. As the ending from “The Invasion of the Body Snatchers” warns us: They’re already here. You’re next.

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It is just a clone… don’t be fooled

This photo has circulated on the Internet for years and here Donald Marshall tells his story about it:

humonculous

Donald Marshall – its just a clone…dont be fooled. A clone Called a homonculous. Oversized clone.

JUST so everyone knows,… the Illuminuts can make oversized or undersized clones, called “homonculous’s” and another idiotic plan of theirs was to have oversized clones come down in man made ships claiming to be Gods from olympus that “made humans” and theyre back to save the day against the Vrill… taking vrill and drones away with them, and anyone else that wants to come… this is a deception. They’re just oversized clones.

They will say they are called the “Ur” (err) it’s all bs.

they might go with this plan, as they dont think the “tall grey” (vrill type 3) will work… Yeah I wouldn’t mind hercules and them coming to save the world.

they can also make what is called a homonculous of you, a larger or smaller version of your adult body… they can make a 3 foot tall you… bones more breakable and feel wierd but yeah… they can make you bigger too but moving around is hard.

theyve activated me into an oversized clone a few times… it’s easy… all off balance awkward clumsy. and heavy. It’s just an oversized clone… they can make smaller than normal clones… a clone made any other size than normal is called a homonculous, bigger or smaller…

vrill in clones or on chip in clones, larger ones called homonculous.

Undead alien techno God’s might be real… but then it could be a Nazi bs scheme to control people using oversized clones called homonculous’s and gene-spliced creatures… I’m not certain on that part…

they can make homonculous clones, bigger than original or smaller. Seen them, fought them.

They have said they may fake a return… using oversized clones called homonculous’s and using man made saucers,… Olympian God names,… race caller the “Ur” and theyre going to say they want gold. If they go ahead with it, know it is a deception.

http://i1363.photobucket.com/albums/r709/Astral7ight/giantfromoldtimes_zpsbyimlarn.jpg

I was told this picture was taken in modern day by an old antique camera… and the tall dude was a hollywood made special effects dummy… they do tha a lot, just take a pic with an old camera and wrinkle the photo up some and stain the edges a bit and people just automatically believe its authentic lol. they were going to use this and many other things, to encourage the belief of these tall humanoud aliens called the UR… lol sounds like (err) like Durr the illuminuts are stupid lol… oversized clones called homonculous’s they were going to call themselves the Olympian Gods, Zeus and Athena and the rest, say they created humanity and that they were returned and they wanted all the gold… lol it’s one of several plans they has in their options list, including the “Pleadeans” arrival… I’ll tell you bout the gold in phase 4. pretty wierd.

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Donald Marshall and Avatar 2045 project

I have studied this transhumanism and cloning agen for years and best info about it gives Donald Marshall. One of the key projects is called Avatar 2045, which turns us into clones controlled with microchips, sounds grazy? Just read about it.

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And here’s info about Avatar 2045 project:

According to their website, the main goals of the Avatar 2045 Initiative is to create technologies enabling the transfer of an individual’s personality to a more advanced non-biological carrier, extending life to the point of immortality. They state that they hope to realize a new strategy for humanity’s development, and in so doing, create a more productive, fulfilling and satisfying future.

According to Marshall, Avatar 2045 is just another well-funded PR campaign using drip-feed disclosure to introduce the science of human cloning and microchip brain implant technology to the public which Marshall claims, members of the elite have secretly utilized for many decades.

According to Marshall, human cloning is not only possible, but has been practiced by the Illuminati since the 1940’s, when world leaders would send their human clones in public as a safety measure against assassinations. Today, he explains that a type of cloning technology called R.E.M. Driven Human Cloning is used to transfer full human consciousness into a clone copy during normal R.E.M. sleep cycles.

Marshall claims that this is accomplished by using blood or tissue samples to create an identical clone body stored in a remote location, and once that person is asleep, secret technology is used to transfer their consciousness to their clone double, complete with personality and memories intact. Marshall explains that this is the primary way the Illuminati communicate, by using the hours of sleep to meet in underground military bases, to discuss and plan future world events. Furthermore, he tells us that there are entire floors at each base where clone bodies are grown in large glass tubes, stored on stainless steel racks and activated when needed.

Marshall explains that once he falls asleep at night, and enters natural R.E.M. sleep, he opens his eyes to find himself in an identical clone body at a top secret military base, and he says he is trapped there until his anchor body wakes up, at which time, his clone body deactivates and drops to the floor. According to Marshall, he was 5 years old when he remembered being brought to the cloning center by his mother for the first time. He says he never remembered how he got there, only remembers being there. In fact, Marshall claims that many of those at the cloning center don’t fully understand how they get there, as only some are told the truth. Many are told that they are in another dimension, or on the astral plane. Very few are informed that they have been cloned and have had their consciousness transferred to a clone body kept and maintained at a top secret military base. In fact, when Marshall first posted his online expose in late 2011, many members read this and were angry to learn the truth for the first time.

According to Marshall, R.E.M. Cloning began as a way for world leaders to meet secretly and plan global events. However, these meetings gradually devolved into a sick, nightly spectacle where hundreds of Illuminati members gather to watch children and adults get hurt, tortured and murdered in bizarre ways. Marshall says that it makes Illuminati members feel powerful to watch horrible things done to innocent victims. Some members just pretend to enjoy the show, but secretly want out. Trapped by cloning technology into attending the cloning center every night, they see no way out. According to Marshall, every once in a while someone will speak out and say they don’t want to attend anymore. The Illuminati will then use them as an example for the others and they end up ruined, destroyed and in some cases, dead. Marshall hopes that by exposing the perverse activities that go on in underground military bases, the public will be outraged and demand an immediate stop to this depravity.

PROJECT AVATAR

According to Project Avatar, in less than 30 years, the public will embrace both human cloning and microchip implant technology, in which, they say, a human brain is transplanted at the end of one’s life into the body of an avatar, presumably, an enhanced clone version of yourself.

According to Marshall, this has already been done. He claims that in addition to human cloning, microchip implant technology was developed in order to attain immortality. In the 1940’s, a group of powerful elite wanted to live forever and they funded the research that led to microchip implant technology. By recording a person’s consciousness on a chip before they died, scientists were able to insert this microchip into a precise location and upload all of their memories into a clone brain. They found however, that using clones for microchip brain implants was not ideal, as clone behavior can become erratic and unreliable. The problem was solved by stealing the body of another. The stolen brain uploads the inserted memories and new programming begins to run. The victim has been successfully bodysnatched by microchip technology, allowing the dead to live on and on. These microchipheads now live among us, hopping from body to body, in essence, living forever.

As shown in the 2015 science fiction film Self/Less whereby using advanced technology, a wealthy, dying man uploads his memories into the brain of another, giving him more time to fulfill his potential. However, he discovers that immortality has some side effects when he begins to access his new brain’s previous memories and learns that a man was murdered in order to supply his new body.

It’s not science fiction, Marshall claims, but reality among elite members of the Illuminati who never die, but simply go on to the next body, this includes powerful world leaders, the rich and powerful, many royals and many well known celebrities who, according to Marshall still slither the earth wearing new bodies and identities.

However, according to Marshall, microchip implant technology is a dead-end tech, deeply flawed and cannot be corrected, despite decades of efforts by Illuminati scientists all over the world. For some reason, microchipheads have difficulty controlling basic impulses, and revert to primitive, caveman-like behavior, with a tendency to attack small children and engage in depraved acts of cannibalism. Which begs the question: What kind of legacy do you want to leave behind? How do you want to be remembered? According to Marshall, dead is better.

Marshall calls for a complete ban on all microchip brain implant technology, calling it immoral and unethical. One can only wonder why those that endorse the Avatar 2045 initiative would try to promote a technology they know is hopelessly flawed, unless they simply want to profit by creating a billion-dollar market selling immortality to those afraid to die.

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Close Encounters with Celebrities & Show Business

I founded this great article, which tells you pretty well the “behind the curtain” story about Hollywood. How it’s full of satanism and prostitution. Did you know, that celebrities make more money as being whores as in being movie stars? Yeah they are escorts to rich people who want to own these people. This has led to a situation where celebrities has clones, which are then abused. Sounds grazy, but if you dig deeper you find some pretty interesting stuff. But that’s too much me speaking just read this article and checkout the video. I put the video first in the case you want to check that first and the read the article, which it is based on.

And here’s the article:

Close Encounters with Celebrities & Show Business

by ‘feliciag http://doppels.proboards.com

2010 Aug

I’d like this thread to be a place where anyone who has firsthand, in person, experience with interacting with celebrities can talk about what they have observed. This includes anything “anomalous” which might speak to the idea of replacements, clones, synthetics, and – yes- spiritual possession.

Even if all you did was see someone perform “live” at a concert, or you attended a book signing or political rally, or maybe you had a random moment where you walked past a famous person, I’d love for you to post observations here.

Also I would love people who have worked onstage professionally, worked as model, or worked on film, TV, or music video sets to share any observations they might have about weird “things that make you go ‘HMMMMM?” The entertainment world is FULL of high strangeness.

My own history comes as both a former actress/singer and also as a writer. Also, I am just someone who has come across a lot of celebrities and people who work in show business as part of my daily life. Some of it comes from the area where I live, which is an artistic area where lots of celebs and artistic people chose to vacation and/or retire.

I think I only understood the idea of replacements being possible on an intuitive level for a long time. Most of what I’ve observed has to do with significant emotional/spiritual/and interpersonal changes that happen when people are presented with really big show business opportunities.

Please understand something very important as you read this thread. At any given time, the members of the Screen Actors Guild are 99% unemployed. And there are many, many other actors who are non-union who are also working in the industry on and off, and they are also about 99% unemployed. There is also a TV actors union called AFTRA, and a union for stage actors called Equity.

For the years I worked as an actress I was “Equity eligible,” which at the time was a sub-category of stage performers who had worked on jobs earning Equity minimum rates, but had never actually been hired in an Equity show. At the peak of my “acting career” I was making Equity minimum rates, which in the late 80’s/early 90’s was $300 per week. That was “rich living” in the acting industry, believe it or not!

Most acting jobs last from four weeks to three months if you’re doing a stage show, such as with a regional theater, dinner theater, or youth theater. That’s part of the reason why the unemployement rates are so high. Jobs don’t last very long because shows might have a run for just a few weeks, and then you have several weeks of rehearsals before that. So your entire “work” period might consist of a very short period of time.

I did many different kinds of work ranging from regional theater to Shakespeare in the Park type stuff to summer stock to kids’ theater/school tours and more. In between, I worked as much as possible doing things like voice over work, live events like industrial work at auto shows as a spokesmodel, and TV and film bit parts.

I was lucky to work steadily during the time I was a professional actress. I never took work as a waitress, for instance, to keep me going between jobs. I seemed to always have a gig going on. Most of my friends, in the meantime, made more as waiters and hostesses in restaurants and worked for 2/3rds of the year in the restaurant industry. And many of them were a LOT more talented than I was. Show business is just a brutal, brutal industry.

The competition for women is also horrible. For every fifty women who would audition for a show, there would be one or two men. This was at the Actors Equity offices in New York. And then you have the horrible math of the shows themselves. Almost always, there would be about two major female roles to about 10 – 15 male roles in a given show. So to get a major speaking role, let alone a major role, as a female performer took a helluva lot of work – and some talent. I only ever worked in major roles as an actress with the exception of one dinner theater musical I did as a chorus player. So I think I was pretty good back then!

In the stage world, which centers in New York, you have the Gay Mafia running things. Befriend this crowd and you will continually get work. Piss them off, and you’ll never work in this town again.

I had written a play once that a former Broadway producer was looking at. She was a lesbian woman who had worked on several big name Broadway musicals in the 1980’s and 1990’s. At one point, she pissed off some of the gay males who run the industry in New York. And she literally became homeless almost overnight from blacklisting. She liked my play but told me she couldn’t really help me since all her former friends had turned on her. So, to be clear, it is the gay MALE mafia that runs the theatrical world in New York.

This makes for a very weird dynamic when you seek stage work in New York, as I did. Many gay males took to me because at the time I was pretty glamorous and looked like Jennifer Connelly/Brooke Shields, a popular look at the time. They got me work.

When the rare straight male stage director auditioned me, it was always a casting couch situation – sleep with me or you dont’ get work – and I always refused. So the only work I got in the theater from my New York auditions was from gay male directors.

On the flip side of things, if you were a gay man auditioning for work and a gay male director was casting, you also needed to be ready to sleep with the director. One of my friends was very willing and got a supporting role in a Broadway musical – but the show bombed, unfortunately. He didn’t care about sleeping wiht the director, he thought it was just fun!

I am explaining the background here about the stage world. The stage is very different from TV and film, which I’ll discuss in a moment.

Most of my steady work came from auditioning in New York for theaters that were out of town, so I travelled and did tons of work up and down the East Coast. A lot of the jobs were very fun (again, because I worked for either gay male directors who admired me or straight female directors who simply cast me for my talent.) I mostly did comedies, kids shows, and period pieces like Shakespeare, with a few musicals thrown in.

Stage work can be very beautiful because you get to project loving and positive energy to a crowd and attempt to share something uplifting or educational with the masses. All of the actors I knew were very sweet, and we all tended to be the typical right-brained creative types who were idealistic and naive about the world.

And often very, very over-sexed. Any cast I was in always became an orgy of almost everybody sleeping with everybody else! Where it got weird was when the power players, the producers or directors, “adopted’ a cast member as a lover. Then that person was usually elevated to a position of power – they suddenly took over the lead, for instance, with the original person suddenly not showing up for work, etc.

But the theaters I was involved with were relatively small time, so I didn’t see much of the bigger, darker stuff until I started to work in TV and film.

I will continue that story in my next post.

 

 

To continue – for whatever reasons, maybe because the arts allow us to express ourselves and be creative, show business attracts tons of wannabe performers all over the world. This desire to be seen, to be noticed, and often, to receive “love” and adoration on a massive scale seems universal.

I was fortunate to come from a loving family, but many of the performers and models I knew did not. When they came from abusive homes or single parent homes they almost always became more vulnerable to prostitution, abuse, and drug addiction. Some of it is driven by the very real harsh economics of working in that industry. 99% unemployment is really bad, let alone trying to compete with a gazillion people who are prettier, more talented, and who have bigger boobs/skinnier bodies than you do!

So from a director or producer’s perspective, when you have thousands of gorgeous young men and women dying to get a part, why not have some “hidden” job requirements like sleeping with the director? If one woman refuses to do it, chances are there are hundreds behind her in line who will say yes.

That’s the mentality.

The problem is that young women often think that sleeping with the director means that they will be taken more seriously as a performer and get more access to meatier roles. It doesn’t always work that way.

I knew two actresses, one who was a comedienne/actress, one who was just an actress, who were trying to make it in New York and were pursuing every option possible, knocking down doors, pounding the pavements, etc.

One of them ended up sleeping with yucky Jewish “comedian” Jackie Mason because he told her he would help her get live comedy gigs in the city. He did invite her to perform at one event, but that was it. She stopped sleeping with him pretty quickly and the entire experience really darkened her, blackened her spirit. She went from this gorgeous Italian-American New Jersey comedienne to this saddened, heavy drinking, harsh-toned woman almost overnight. She told me he gave her drugs, too, so God knows what really happened.

The other girl, the actress who was friends with the comedienne, actually had a TV agent in the city who put her up for a minor speaking role on the TV show ER. This actress was told that she needed to sleep with – I think it was the casting director, not the episode director – and she did. She got the small performing role. Her agent had basically operated as a madam – setting her up to sleep with the director to get the role. After the agent knew the actress was willing to go that route to get work, she set her up to work as a full-time escort between acting jobs. The last I talked to this poor actress, she had descended into full-time prostitution because she wasn’t getting audiitons for acting work, but her agent was sending her loads of johns to sleep with! So many acting agencies are fronts for prostitution, escort services, S&M/dungeon master stuff, and worse.

Joe Franklin who had a late night TV talk show in New York was another one famous for getting young girls to sleep with him while making promises about how he would set them up in show business. Which never happened for any of the women. It was all a set up.

When men of power see all these gorgeous, talented, and often very sexual women pursuing jobs in New York, many of them take advantage.

Now, I’m still talking about stuff happening on a relatively human level. Man to woman. It’s abusive, it’s nasty, but in some ways, it’s a story as old as time.

What I want to talk about next has to do with the price of celebrity and the whole replacement issue.

 

What I’ve talked about so far is what happens in the very lowest levels, the lowest “tier” of show business. This is where I was, where people were basically just working for a living, trying to keep themselves and their integrity intact, naive about the larger stuff going on for the most part. Some made bad choices, fell into prostitution, drug use, and/or porn – amongst the models, actors, and actresses I knew. But most of the people I personally knew well then stayed at that level. They never became famous or “big.”

I did, however, have many firsthand brushes with celebs who were on a much higher tier. And weird stuff was constant within these circles.

As I mentioned in another thread, I do believe that there are two realities within the industry. Insider/bloodline types who literally make a phone call after they get out of Juilliard or film school and immediately get work in the industry – who have often come from multi-generational abuse families. And then there are nobodies like me who get work but don’t have those connections. In my career, whenever I would cross slightly over into the reality of potentially getting bigger roles (in TV or film,) I was always presented with the “pay to play” prostitution demand, which I refused. I kept thinking each time I hit that wall in various cities, and various shows and film projects, that surely, at some point I would find a big role that didn’t require that, but I never did. Casting directors, agents, and/or directors always made it clear that you not only make yourself available to sleep with that specific power player, but most actresses are expected to be on call in what’s basically a pool of prostitute/escorts for other powerful people that particular person might know.

Models also end up in this situation, only it starts very young for them, since a model’s career is usually over by 25. They start working at 13 – 16 and begin working as prostitutes from day one in addition to going on modeling calls. Because models also have to keep an extremely, inhumanly thin physique, they are fed cocaine the very first time they are at a modelling shoot, usually, and this keeps them lively and bouncy for the photo shoot, lowers their sexual inhibitions, and makes them feel part of the “adult” crowd.

I have lived on a property where many Ralph Lauren and other high profile clothes catalogue shoots have been held, in addition to many women’s magazines shooting photo spreads there. Cocaine was handed out at the refreshment table much of the time. (I usually showed up, grabbed a snack, and left! I couldn’t believe how open the drug use was. The models were sickly thin but looked great in the bulky clothes. )

So to cross into the higher echelons of entertainment if you DON’T have family connections, you work yourself through the drug use/sexual permissiveness/prostitution/escort levels, and this in turn leads to things like mind control, having handlers, and into darker levels of what I believe is spiritual possession or soul loss at a profound level. At some point, if you “wake up” from the almost constant mind control and trance induction, and you say “No,” you can either be told you will never have a career (As happened to me before I got involved with the crap;) and/or you can have your physical well-being threatened.

I had death threats from one assistant director who had chosen me to play a recurring character (non-=speaking) on a TV show. I did about ten episodes. He was always inappropriately flirtatious with me, in a really creepy way, and when I showed up one day with an engagement ring on my finger after getting engaged, he got really nasty. He threatened my boyfriend’s life and mine. I couldn’t figure out why. I was just a bit player, nobody famous, nothing. I just laughed it off at the time but I knew another girl who had gone the prostitution route on the show and slept with this same assistant director, which got her exactly six speaking lines in one episode, and she became creeped out by him very quickly. She talked about how he was violent with her during sex, always feeding her copious drugs, and talked about how the next time she came over he would bring some of his friends over from the set and she would have to sleep with them.

She refused and broke up with him after that, naively thinking that theirs was a relationship of equals. She moved back in with her ex-boyfriend and the boyfriend had the tires shot out of his truck, she was gang-stalked while out driving for months, and her agent would no longer return her phone calls for her “unprofessional” behavior. The unprofessional part was her breaking up with the assistant director.

Again, though, I’m just talking about lower level shenanigans in the industry. I will talk more about observing actual celebs next. I just wanted to provide more background on the thuggery, mandatory prostitution, and drug use that is a constant in the TV/film world. ( I really didn’t see this in the stage world at all, so it seems more tied to the modelling, TV, music video, and film worlds.)

 

What I’ve described so far is really the “grooming” stage which I believe later can set the stage for a performer, once they get famous, to become deeply embedded in a very dark world, indeed. And having seen how dark it is, I can’t help but see that there must be people who protest and wake up at some point, and also I see how their waking up must be a real threat to the controllers of this system, so of course they are threatened, silenced, or killed. That’s the way the game seems to work. Awful.

One TV show I did starred Carroll O’Connor and the show was haunted by problems. Parasitic drug dealers literally took up residence in the tiny Georgia town where we filmed, preying on the cast and crew. Actor Howard Rollins had a major cocaine problem throughout filming. Carroll O’Connor’s son Hugh, who had been given a small role on the show so Carroll could keep an eye on him (he was prone to drug problems) became a sitting duck for the drug pushers and sunk deeper into drug addiction. Some years later he died of an overdose. And the women on the show were so horribly skinny and coke-addicted, it was terrible. They keep the women of TV and film horrifically thin. I could see the ribs and backbones of the main actress, Anne Marie Johnson, and a guest star who was a woman from soap operas, when they filmed a party scene wearing backless gowns. They seriously looked like refugees from a concentration camp – just like models. And neither of these women was large in any respect – they needed to each put on another 20 pounds just to be healthy. Many of the episode directors complained about how Anne Marie was getting too fat. Yeah, the residents of Dachau were SO frickin’ fat, what lard-asses they were. What twisted people.

I didn’t see any signs of replacements in these people, although celebrities are always different in person than you’d expect. Carroll O’Connor was always polite yet distant with everyone. Once in a while you’d see his famous humor come through in some improvising – shades of Archie Bunker coming through. The show was very serious and dramatic and slow-paced (It was the TV version of the film In the Heat of the Night.) I was struck by how Carroll O’Connor seemed smaller and frailer than he did as Archie Bunker, but I wrote it off as age. Plus he had a heart condition and the stress of having to film extra hours due to his co-star’s drug problems added to that. At one point during production he had a heart attack, but I wasn’t working with him then.

Still–I should double check some photos of him to see if he’s a replacement possibility, just because you never know! And there was a big gap between him filming his last Archie Bunker material, Archie’s Place, I believe, in the early 80’s? And In the Heat of the Night, which we were filming in 1989.

Anyway, the environment of filming on TV and film is just very toxic and it would seem that most of the players on this set were trancing out with drugs most of the time. Other TV and film sets I was on were much the same. It’s a pretty miserable life, in many respects, and it doesn’t surprise me one bit that people might try to “rebel” at some point and later get replaced. Especially given the intense demands these days to be in front of cameras 24/7 and to be just as “interesting” off camera as on.

I want to fast forward and mention some candidates for replacement that I’d like to research more up ahead.

I had a friend who was friendly with Ann-Margret’s biographers and sometimes saw her backstage after her various shows. He had been going to see her live in concert since the 1970’s, when he was a young boy. He never spent more than a few minutes with her, but she was always friendly and knew him by name. One time she was performing at Caesar’s in Atlantic City, doing a stripped down version of the same show she had recently done at Radio City Music Hall in New York. (I think this was 1996 or so?) My friend got us tickets and also, through the influence of his friends, her biographers, got us backstage to talk to her in her dressing room reception area for a few minutes after her show.

She wore dark sunglasses throughout and you couldn’t see her face very well. She was a petite thing, curvy and sweet, very polite. My friend had made it sound like she really KNEW him and would call him by name, but she didn’t do that. It was more like she was forcing herself to be polite and do the obligatory guest greetings backstage. We made small talk for a few minutes, complimented her on her show, and then left.

My friend was shaken and freaked out afterwards. He talked about how her face looked really, really different (beneath heavy makeup and her hair hanging over her face I did think I saw some signs of facelifts and facial work, but I didn’t think anything of it – such is the way with older women in Hollywood.) He also said how she didn’t recognize him by name, and usually she did. (Admittedly he hadn’t seen her for a while backstage one on one. He had SEEN her backstage at various points in the mid to late 80’s but not one on one like we did that day in – I think it was – 1996 or so? She probably met lots of fans, so did she forget him? Probably?)

He also said how her show had been really lackluster and her singing was just awful compared to the way it had been at Radio City Music Hall. He said that show had been great, and this was really awful in comparision.

In retrospect, I’m wondering if she was replaced at some point? Or even if she sends a replacement out to do some of her shows for her? Is that possible?

I’ve been looking at photos and in some of her photos as a young woman she really looks like she has brown eyes, and in others they are lighter. Also she goes from being really bosomy to not having as much bosom to bosomy again. She had an accident in concert in the 1970’s in which she fell from a stage and supposedly had to have her entire jaw wired shut and restructured. Now I’m wondering – was that replacement time? Or was that when a replacement took over for a while while the original recovered, and from time to time she trots out the replacement to cover her in a show? My friend said she did NOT seem like the same Ann Margret he had watched onstage so many times and seen a few times backstage – and that the performance we saw was nothing like the same version of the show he had seen at Radio City.

I also have my radar out about her since she slept with Elvis many years back when they fell for each other during a movie shoot – and who knows which version of Elvis it was? Many people say that Elvis and she were like spiritual twins, extremely connected and linked and powerful when they got together – like soulmates. Sometimes when one celeb is replaced they replace an entire surrounding constellation of people – as we’ve seen with the Beatles and with many of the cast of Friends, etc.

So anyway, I wanted to put that story out there to return to later for further research.

 

I’m glad you didn’t end up working as model. Most open modelling casting calls are really prostitution fronts, anyway, or they just force you to spend lots of money on unnecessary head shots/professional photography, and then the agency makes more from pimping and from the photos than actually getting the models work. At those open calls they want really pretty and really DUMB, submissive women. Very sad how such women are taken advantage of.

I can’t speak to the military/police component of the sets – there wasn’t such high security on most of the projects I was involved in, but then, this was late 1980’s/early 1990’s and I think the whole celebrity culture has gotten a lot weirded now, with much stronger security. The only time I saw a ton of military looking/creepy security people trying unsuccessfully to “blend in” was when they were filming A Beautiful Mind with Russell Crowe and Jennifer Connelly across from my apartment in Princeton, New Jersey and they had these creepy military looking dudes patrolling the streets while they filmed. I only had a brief glimpse of Crowe from a far distance, and I never saw Jennifer Connelly or Paul Bettany. I would have liked to have seen Jennifer just to confirm that she is now Fennifer – but I didn’t!

I wasn’t aware of the whole reptilian/shapeshifting stuff back then, but on an energy level, I definitely sensed a lot of characters in the casting directing/casting agent/modelling agent roles and directing/production roles who just intuitively creeped me out – and I think my instincts for self-preservation kept me away from interacting with them very much. A few directors on the TV show were nice. On In the Heat of the NIght they had guest directors for each episode and some of them seemed very sweet and not creepy, creative and artsy. Others were frightening. But I felt this stuff more intuitively and just shied away from dealing with the ones that felt “wrong.” In retrospect, given how naive I was in other ways, I’m very glad I had those instincts and avoided trouble!

 

About a completely different celebrity – I was kicked off an alternative news/conspiracy site some years ago for sharing this story, which was weird.

We all know Michael Jackson hadn’t been Michael Jackson for a long time and was possibly replaced several times. And he came from a horrifically abusive family where his dad sold all his children into bondage, basically. Many stories about how old Joe Jackson once kicked little Michael in the crotch, which may have led to permanent damage to his testes, and possibly the reason for his very high voice well into adulthood. Anyway, lots of mess going on there.

The being who was masquerading as Michael Jackson around 1990-1995 often rented out a suite at Leona Helmsey’s The Palace luxury hotel. A friend of mine in the hotel industry took me to see this huge penthouse suite, which takes up two stories, has amazing views, beautiful grand piano, endless rooms. This woman who was the concierge there during the time MJ was staying there told me about how he would have groups of 10 – 15 Mexican boys, under the age of 15, shipped in by a mysterious limo driver who would show up at the back delivery entrance and bring the kids in for “play dates” with Michael. And MJ also always had Bubbles the chimp with him and some other staff/entourage. The boys would stay over for a night or two and then be shipped back out again. My friend and all the staff used to dealing with VIP’s knew that they would be blacklisted from working in the hotel industry in New York if they let word get out about this.

The rooms were always a mess afterwards, she told me. Semen stains all over the expensive couches. She showed me some of the specific couches that had had to be replaced several times. Nasty stuff.

She didn’t want to tell me anything more, but suffice it to say that the insiders in the VIP hotel/lodgings world see a lot of stuff involving child sex trafficking and sex slavery and these people being shipped in for certain stars. The same goes for women sex slaves, too, it all depends on the celebrity’s tastes.

Another hotel industry friend who worked in lots of LA hotels on the West coast talked about Tom Cruise (one of the Foms, no doubt) who keeps to this day a special luxury penthose apartment for parties with his male gay friends – and sometimes they ship in gay male escorts, some of them underaged.

So there is a ton of this underground sex slave/prostitution/trafficking stuff that sits right along side the drug industry, both with parasitic hands in the world of stars, celebs, and models.

Were the “originals” this goofed up? I don’t know. The replacements do seem heavily indulged, though. They get all the drugs and sex they want, plus loads of spending money, fame, attention, etc.

 

In the past there has been a thread about Joan Baez and Foan. I can confirm that Foan has been around for a while. I saw her perform live in concert at an outdoor music festival in Pennsylvania, this must have been around 1986 or 1987. While Foan had a lovely voice and a nice stage persona, I had happened to be delving heavily into her earlier recordings right before I went to see her and was very confused at the voice I heard singing. She still has a nice soprano, but it’s not the original Joan. When I saw Foan it was right around the time she was coming out as a lesbian and had a memoir out about it.

I wonder how many times when a celebrity comes out later in life like that, that this is really the replacement announcing their sexuality? The original Joan by all accounts, while not an excessively promiscuous creature of the 60’s like many female singers were from her era, was straight – dated Bob Dylan (before he was Fob,) etc. Also the fact that she is extremely famous for that relationship she had with Bob hints at the possibility of replacement because we know that constellations of people get replaced – lovers, family members, cast mates, etc. And Joan/Foan got a lot of mileage out of singing that one song about her romance with Dylan, I forget the name of it …..Diamonds and Rust? It’s one of her classic hits that she always sings. So the two of them are forever linked as these iconic 60’s characters, and we know that both have been replaced (Dylan played by a lot of different people, some of them women.)

There was a notable incident in New Jersey some years ago where Fob Dylan was picked up by a policeman for wandering aimlessly through some neighborhood and didn’t have his ID on him, and it was only when he was back at the station being questioned that someone “recognized” him as Bob Dylan and sheepishly released him from custody. He had either done a concert the night before locally or he was slated to do one the night afterward, I forget. But nobody recognized him. Makes sense. Who can keep track of all the Fobs? And that was also around the time that that weird film came out where all those different actors (and one actress, Cate Blanchett) played Bob. Sometimes they throw this replacement stuff right in your face!

 

Artemis, Anne Marie was so extremely thin, I honestly can’t believe she has physically survived this long maintaining that level of drug addiction and/or anorexia. When I met her she was shy, quiet, polite, professional, but sadly addicted to coke as was her costar Howard Rollins. She had a very pretty face with classic bone structure but otherwise was rail thin.

I also think Jennifer Hudson should be looked into. Any of these naturally curvy women who are suddenly appearing excessively thin – including Kelly Osbourne as you mentioned in another thread – always raise a red flag. It MIGHT be the original person sometimes, but to me it just shows you how the person was probably tortured into starvation for months while her agents/handlers dangled the prospect of getting the woman more mainstream roles and work, which usually doesn’t pan out if it’s still the real person because her natural weight will re-assert itself. Horrid stuff.

I’m a tall gall, 6 feet tall, and many people wanted me to be a model, but I also have big bones and could never get down to the required 125 pounds to do mainstream modelling work. I did some minor modelling gigs but was told point blank that I needed to be at a minimum of 125 pounds to get work in the industry. I was told this in New York, Washington DC , Philadelphia, and Atlanta, so it’s pretty much the same all over. I’ve always maintained the same weight and even right now my ribs stick out in my back (naturally, not from starvation,) so I’ve never carried any extra weight to speak of. You wouldn’t say I had more than five pounds of extra flesh on me!

I tried back in the day to starve myself down but I couldn’t get down any lower than 139 pounds, and then I was getting sick from blood sugar problems and so forth. Unfortunately at the time I was dating a guy whom I believe to literally have been a shapeshifting reptilian (only figured out why he was so yucky many years later) and he kept telling me, even at that weight, that I was too fat! He didn’t even work in the industry.

So there is a really weird conspiracy of negative beings, physical, and non-physical, human and non-human or hybrid, industry connected and not, who want young women to remain as hungry and weakened and weak-willed as possible – and to hell with her health. Fortunately I figured out his sh*t and kicked him to the curb, but since I was young (19 or so) it all left a mark on me developmentally and it took a while to heal from those influences I was immersing myself in.

 

Cinematographers are also heavily into the dark stuff that is so pervasive in the film and TV industries. Through friends of friends I’ve had several conversations with a man who has been a main cinematographer on tons of mainstream hit films. He worked on Kill Bill with Uma Thurman and Quentin Tarrentino and David Carradine. He described working on that set and his whole gleeful description of the constant immersion in blood (fake, one would hope), body parts being tossed into scenes, and other celebration of carnage really made me sick. And he just loved it because he’s a nasty piece of work. He described the weird affair between Uma and Quentin and how he would sort of program her to do her scenes. The real Uma seems very different, quiet, low-key, nerdish and bookish. So definitely lots of programming and handling went on. (I’ve never been able to watch the movie. Tarentino’s work is such an openly Satanic celebration of bloodlust, I want to kill the bastard.)

This cinematographer has also worked with some major action directors like Michael Bey, who I’m convinced is an alien, he’s not human – go look at his eyes in a photo sometime! Again, this cinematographer only seems to work on these action/bloodlust/bloodletting types of movies.

This guy (the cinematographer) is also a creep who keeps a wife at home, then he’ll go off to someplace to China for six months and sleep with second tier actresses and crew members who work on the set, and then come home to the clueless wife. Horrific all around. Sets pretty much operate as freefalling orgy zones. “Married” people suddenly become “unmarried” for purposes of filming, then go back to their significant others. Michael Douglas did this for years to his long-suffering wife Diandra. Kathleen Turner recently confirmed this in her biography, talking about how she and Douglas slept with each other while filming the Romancing the Stone movies, then he went back to his wife. I’m glad Diandra got tons of money from him in their divorce!

The same thing played out in the earlier marriages of Mel Gibson and Kevin Costner. Remember how for ages their publicists promoted them as the ultimate family men, still married to their longtime sweethearts, devoted dads, etc? Now the truth is coming out about how abusive Mel is. Costner just always slept around. I know someone who gave him a massage at a resort somewhere – I think in Colorado? – and he always requested “happy endings,” which ends in sexual release.

Creepy world. Don’t believe any of the “knight in shining armor” spin about ANY star, male or female.

 

Yeah, it’s there in the pageant industry. I was in the Miss Teen Pennsylvania pageant back in the day, I think that is what it was called, and during the three day rehearsal period before the pageant I was pretty much told by the production heads that I was being given a very favorable rating by the important people, because I could sing, dance, had good grades, etc. It was weird, it was like they were telling me in advance I was going to win. Not that the prize was much – I think it was just a couple of thousand dollars which you could use toward your college education.

Anyway, as we headed into the dress rehearsal stage and were finalizing our performances for the show/pageant (lots of song and dance numbers we had to perform as a large group), one girl who was very sexually precocious, who had a REALLY large rack on her, started noticing how the judges and pageant directors were paying me a lot of attention, and she started kissing up to them. She ended up winning the pageant.

I kept in touch with my roommates – three girls I had roomed with over that rehearsal weekend who were all contestants like me – and one of them later told me that that girl who won had slept with one of the male production people. Pure coincidence that she happened to win, of course. The girl was 16 years old but looked 22.

I hope she was okay after that and didn’t sink into the horrible little sideshow world of the larger national pageants.

I also knew a former Miss Pennsylvania, a very clean cut athlete type of woman, she was Miss PA in the late 80’s sometime; she talked about how at the national pageant it was all about who would be most sexually accommodating to the judges that weekend before the final pageant show was held. She didn’t win Miss USA but after what she saw, she had no regrets about it!

 

You know the now “D” list actress Tara Reid? (She of the addictions, the horrible plastic surgeries, etc.) She makes her living earning about $20,000 – $50,000 (when she looked better) as a private “escort’ to many wealthy international men.

When you are a C or D list celebrity female, you earn more as a prostitute than as an actress. I guess the attitude of these poor, abused mind=controlled women is “at least it’s a job!”

 

Per “gig” — which usually involves travel to be with the gentlemen in question somewhere out of the country, at his estate, private island, or yacht. The usual stuff. Pamela Anderson has been doing the same thing for a long time – she makes more, though! Many others like this one actress Mena Suvari who made a big splash in American Beauty but in recent years had disappeared off the map – she actually makes loads of money as a dominatrix catering to clients with certain, um, tastes.

This is all info gleaned from friends who work in LA hotels, Las Vegas too, where this stuff is widely known about.

Since SAG minimum rates for a day long gig used to be, what $500 a day or something? (I have no idea what they are now) and minor stars might get $10,000 for a small walk on role as the villain in a TV series – they can actually make more consistent income doing the call girl stuff (and call boy stuff. Whole ‘nuther story.)

In addition, many female “celebs” got started in prostitution and later became “stars.” Or they worked in a few roles, their careers stalled, they went into prostitution, serviced the “right” client, and then their careers became bigger again. Case in point Denise Richards who was working as an escort when she got involved with Charlie Sheen. Her acting career never took off and she always had more work as a call girl than anything else.

Paris Hilton was a notorious LA prostitute and the only reason she ever became a celebrity was because she blackmailed certain highly-placed entertainment people who were in her “little black book” and that’s how that horrible woman was foisted upon us all (and young girls especially, who for a while really looked up to her!) Her arrest for cocaine the other day is more typical of what she’s always been, what she’s always been up to. Paris now makes between $500,000 to $1million to show up at a “party” for the Kind of Bahrain’s son or whatever – she does those international prostitution/party appearance gigs all the time.

There is also a big esoteric/psychic ritual component. Depending on the wiring of the woman, she might be used to conceive a particular type of soul during a ritual, be used as a breeder, then the baby “disappears”. Also sexual rituals are used to bring energy to a person, company, project, endeavor, or location. Older women are often used to help a younger member (male usually) of a connected family celebrate his sexual maturity – think like a bar or bat mitzvah ceremony, only instead of coming of age spiritually, he is celebrating coming of age sexually. This can be done when the child is between 12 – 15 for boys, and not too long after a girl’s first period for the young girls.

You have the Madonnas who groom the younger women to eventually take their place with the sexual/psychic rituals, but sometimes the older ones are still being used for other things. It’s never really been about youth but more about energy and being able to access that person to harvest their psychic energy/emotional energy, and the women who have had a lot of sexual abuse and fragmentation and damage in their past are especially “popular” in this regard because they can be trained not to remember being abused and will tend to dismiss everything as a great party in which they had great drugs/drink, had sex with multiple people, and went home with a lot of money.

Pamela Anderson “wrote” a novel a while back that talked about one of her alter egos and discussed the frequent orgies “she” participated in. Thinly veiled real stuff. But I don’t think that book talked about any of the deeper esoteric stuff. Again, with mind control and fragmentation sometimes the person doesn’t recall everything they end up being used for.

Thanks for the pay update – I’ve still got figures in my head from the late 80’s/early 90’s when I was in the industry – although I never joined the unions as I mostly did stage work and made more being non-Equity than most of the true Equity actors I knew (a lot of them worked under pseudonyms in non-union theater settings so they could continue to pay bills, since Equity work is rare as hen’s teeth.)

I know a second tier TV actress/C-D list movie actress who has done some story arcs on various crime/law type series– often as the long suffering wife who turns out to be the killer, that type of thing – she usually films for two days max (AFTRA work) and since she has a bit of a “name” she pulls about $10,000 – $25,000 when she gets a story arc like that. Still, she works rarely, like most actresses her age (she’s in her 50’s now.) If she had slightly more name recognition she says she could probably make more for these types of gigs, but since she hasn’t been in a mainstream movie for a while, her “asking price” keeps going down.

She’s someone who actually didnt’ end up in the prostitution/sex slave track – but then she took a long time off from the biz to get married, have kids, live a normal life away from LA or New York – and she is also more of a character actress type than a blonde/buxomed/impressionable sex kitten type – which probably saved her!

With some of these ladies it’s helpful to look at the constellation of people they have “dated.” How did Hathaway end up engaged to wealthy real estate developer Raffaello Follieri, for instance? Info on some of his connections here – from June 2008:

“More trouble for Raffaello Follieri, the fiancé of “Devil Wears Prada” star Anne Hathaway; Attorney General Andrew Cuomo is investigating the Follieri Foundation, a charity headed by the 29-year-old Italian businessman. The Post has it that Cuomo’s office has subpoenaed financial documents belonging to the Manhattan-based foundation, which is involved with vaccinating children in developing countries, among other things.

“Follieri last made headlines when he was arrested for bouncing a $215,000 company check issued on behalf of his real estate company. Those charges were dropped when he paid up last month, and earlier this year he also settled a lawsuit brought by billionaire Ron Burkle, who accused Follieri of “systematically misappropriating” at least $1.3 million from a joint business venture to finance his lavish lifestyle.

“Hathaway’s spokesman tells the Post that the actress no longer serves on the foundation’s board, though she had traveled to Central America with Follieri last year for a charity-funded vaccination program. Cuomo’s office declined to elaborate on the investigation, but apparently it has something to do with the foundation’s failure to file tax-disclosure forms required of nonprofit groups.”

Source: http://gothamist.com/2008/06/09/anne_hathaway_b.php

So with this “fiancee” you have a bunch of things going on. First off, when someone in the industry like Anne is suddenly engaged to a guy like that, it is almost always due to an arranged escort/prostitution “date.” People think it’s just because famous and wealthy people meet at parties, but it’s not. Think of Cindy Crawford and Richard Gere and how they said they met at a party. No, she was a paid escort for the evening. At the higher echelons, these women (supermodels especially) are EXPECTED to keep powerful men company – it’s part of the deal.

Sometimes it works out nicely and the woman actually enjoys being with the guy. She ends up with a full-time “gig” as the real girlfriend or wife. That’s how you often end up with actresses marrying their directors. Or it’s more cold and calculated. He gets a bit of expensive, famous, beautiful arm candy – and she thinks she’s going to get lots of work because she’s married to the director. (Doesn’t always work out that way, though. Many directors rarely use their actress wives in films.)

Anyway, with Anne and Raffaello, you also have the constellation of Raffaello having done a business deal with infamous Ron Burkle, a billionaire friend of Bill Clinton, who is widely known to be a guy who likes procuring models and other “willing” women for Bill – as well as enjoying them himself. So these threads all interconnect. Also you have the connection through Raffaello to some “world charity/vaccination program” stuff, with Anne having sat on the board of the charity and travelled to third world countries doing “good works.” These organizations are usually fronts for prostitution, sex trafficking rings, and drugs – but they love to have someone wholesome like Anne as the “face” of the organization. I’m not saying she KNEW about all that stuff, she may have genuinely believed things were kosher.

Anne and Raffaello broke up, but apparently she had let him take naked photos and videos of her, and she was freaking out that these would be made public post-breakup:

“Anne Hathaway is concerned that pictures she took without clothes on for her now jailed ex-boyfriend Raffaello Follieri, might make their way onto the Internet. Anne’s brother was seen going through Follieri’s storage space, but the FBI had already raided the space the day before. Items taken by the FBI included Anne’s diary, and those scandalous pictures. There’s also a rumor an intimate video may have been taken as well. We’ve see Anne without a top on in movies like Havoc, but we haven’t seen her doing the nasty on video yet. Since we don’t have the pics from the storage space yet, the pics below will give you a preview of what is to come.”

Source: http://www.hollywoodgrind.com/anne-hathaway-naughty-picture-scandal/

Now, that’s how the mainstream press always spins this stuff. She agreed to do some soft porn photos and video for the guy, with the understanding that it would only be circulated amongst a “connected” group of his friends. But after she broke up with him, all bets were off, and she knew that he might get nasty and circulate the material wider. This press release makes it sound like these were just innocent little photos and vids taken between a consenting couple. That’s not how it usually works. The actresses agree to do porn in exchange for all the perks of being with the rich guy – but with the understanding that they lose rights to that material if they break up with the guy.

I think Anne got “lucky” or perhaps made some other concessions/deals, because the release of this material didn’t completely spoil her industry image as the nice girl. But it looks like some of it has leaked to the Net and is viewable online.

There is a higher tier in the porn world of homemade stuff made by gorgeous actresses and models, whose boyfriends just “happen” to be directors, photographers, celebs, or connected people and get exclusive access to the sex tapes or photos these women do. I’m sure Raffaello passed Anne’s stuff off to his friends like Ron Burkle, who is into that world up to his eyeballs, maybe even good ole Bill Clinton. It doesn’t mean that it was ever going to be in wider release at the lower levels of porn distribution – this is the more exclusive stuff, the exclusive circles.

I’m afraid that these are the same exclusive circles who probably have access to snuff films and sacrifices that are filmed, and that many of the same people who end up being replaced might also have their deaths or torture filmed and circulated. I can’t say that with 100% firsthand knowledge, but I have known people who survived sex trafficking, and they say that snuff films are done when a sex slave/prostitute/call boy has gotten a bit haggard and worn around the edges, past his or her “sell by” date, and/or pissed off the wrong people. And there’s a huge market in these exclusive, connected, and wealthy circles for that stuff.  I think if we really want to know what happens to the people who get replaced, that such snuff films would unfortunately tell us more than we would ever want to know.

And about the actresses and celebs who are pregnant and then magically not pregnant – case in point, Bristol Palin. She has been pregnant four times. The first time in fall 2006 (there are photos of her wearing a green sweater dated fall 2006 in which she is noticeably pregnant, about four months pregnant, maybe five months). That baby “disappeared.” Trig, which Sarah Palin claimed as hers. Tripp, which Bristol had with Levi Johnston – maybe. Although she slept around so much, and Levi has shown little interest in a decent custody arrangement, that parentage is questionable. And this winter she bought a condo away from her mom’s place, moved in with a hockey player friend of Levi’s named Ben Barber, got pregnant YET again….broke up with Ben, got back together with Levi for about five minutes (still pregnant with Ben’s baby)……….

And now she’s suddenly filming Dancing with the Stars…..not pregnant anymore.

SOME of these babies are most likely sacrifices. Sarah Palin will do anything and everything to remain in the limelight and sold her soul and her body a long time ago. She is systematically doing the same thing to all of her kids. Her “veteran” son, Track, is a known drug addict and was arrested for cutting brake lines on a bunch of school busses before he was shipped off to Iraq (with a cushy job of driving dignitaries around.) Now he’s home and back on the drugs. Willow, Bristol’s younger sister, vandalized a home and has also been arrested for fighting with another girl – all covered up. They’re all being groomed to be part of the machine in one form or another, and it’s the little ones who always suffer. (I include the kids on this list because their destinies were sh*t from the moment they were born. They never had much hope for a decent life.)

You can read a lot more about the baby stuff at:

http://palingates.blogspot.com and

http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com

Vanity Fair just today came out with an explosive article that starts to expose some of the really dark stuff about Sarah Palin – her facade, carefully preserved by Karl Rove and Rupert Murdoch, is starting to crumble a little. But the sheeple still want her to restore the Republic to its God-lovin’, rifle-totin’, hating black people, ways, so I doubt she’ll disappear from the scene for a long, long time.

About Melissa Joan Hart – she’s been working in show business since the age of four, and having starred in Sabrina the Teenage Witch for all those years, she is no doubt highly skilled at moving esoteric energy – mind control and hypnotic energy – and influencing her young female fan base with whatever themes the producer/writers wanted to get across. A lot of that is probably unconscious on her part – she’s just doing what she was trained to do.

Her husband Mark Wilkerson is a bit of a puzzle. Very little info available on him even though he has his band A Course of Nature which has had some minor hits. The two of them did name their first kid Mason Walter Wilkerson, which is interesting. Who uses Mason as a first name unless it has some significance – a nod to the Masons perhaps?

My sense of this couple is that they are very good workers for the system. They represent the “good guy/good girl” platform. They are being USED by the system but might not be insiders themselves. Melissa is busy being a good breeder, though – just had her second kid I think.

Keep in mind with the breeder women is that there are often children born between the pregnancies we hear about – that get “donated” or sacrificed. Kids who can move psychic energy as powerfully as Melissa no doubt can would be highly prized.

I also wouldn’t be surprised if Melissa’s own children, or at least one of them, don’t get offered to the star machine when they are a little older. Tune in on them in about ten years!

As expected since I joined here, I’ve been getting a certain amount of unpleasant – pushback – for posting. That’s why I’ve sort of been posting in a burst. I’m going to probably have to go dark for a while after my flurry of posting, but I’m sure you will all understand why. I’m not even in the industry anymore, but the psychic attack and synchronistic real time “warnings” (close car accidents being one) have been kicking up again. This always happens when I talk about real things. Some of you probably know me from past posts on esoteric type forums and alternative journalism/conspiracy forums, where often an entire group of gangstalking behavior starts kicking up when I piss off the wrong people. So much fun! Not.

So I will probably post some more today and might not be around here after that. Just wanted to let you know.

Speaking as a former performer, I always had a very pure and spiritual component, a very genuine intention to spread love and light and positive emotion, through my work as an actress/singer/musician/comedienne/writer. Very early on I ran into the dark arts. There is literally a much more pervasive darker form of “art” that is ruled by the Illuminati/reptilian/negative ET’s/negative humans/military industrial lodge complex (they’re all pretty much the same group, from what I’ve seen.)

I did tons of Julie Andrews, upbeat, positive ingenue type of work, largely comedic, some of it kids’ theater, a lot of it musicals, most of it live stage work. It was only when I started auditioning for, say, David Mamet plays, in which the women are always hardened, and often whores, that I started to see the “Bizarro” universe that co-exists in the arts next to the more innocent, love and light, having fun, making friends, trying to change the world crowd. (Yes, I was a neo-hippie type in the 80’s!)

Whenever I auditioned for “darker” roles, I was always creeped out by the metaphysical components. Lot of negative energies always attached to the directors, casting people, the actors and actresses who usually got the leads, etc. A theater in which that stuff is happening feels completely different than, for example, a nice little dinner theater out in the country where I portrayed a character in Camelot. The dark stuff definitely involves negative entities – often entities and energies that the performers WELCOME INTO THEIR BODIES in a form of willful possession.

Remember Oprah Winfrey’s movie Beloved which she did a while back? In interviews she talked about allowing herself to be literally possessed by a dark, unhappy spirit of a slave – so she could better play the role. This is what actors and actresses are encouraged to do – to become entirely disassociative and to allow something “other” to come in.

Madonna talked about being possessed by the spirit of Eva Peron when she filmed the famous balcony “Don’t Cry for Me, Argentina” scene for the film version of Evita. Ironically, she gave one of her best performances in that movie – because of her ability/willingness to be possessed. (And Eva Person was a piece of work – former whore, full-time fascist, exploited by the military industrial lodge complex she married into in the form of Juan Peron. She was also given “CIA cancer” which killed her off prematurely.)

Anyway, there seems to be the good Jedis and the dark Sith lords in the arts, and unfortunately, the darker arts are being strongly celebrated these days. Actresses like Anna Paquin, who didn’t have much of a career after her childhood nomination for best supporting actress in The Piano, has had to turn to the dark side of art to get recognition again in her vampire TV series, True Blood. There can be a lifelong process of trying to get a talented artist to turn to the dark forces. After that happens, a lot of subsidiary dark stuff happens – involvement in arranged “dates” with powerful men or women in the industry; feeding the star tons of drugs to get them to disassociate and go along with the abuse that starts to happen to them; and then involvement in actual dark rituals, sacrifices, but more commonly, sex rites (at least in the beginning. Think Eyes Wide Shut/orgies)

Sometimes stars protest and try to get out. This can work, to some degree. Jeri Ryan of Star Trek: Voyager fame was married to the politician Jack Ryan. Remember that story?

“On June 22, 2004, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Robert Schnider agreed to release the custody files. The decision generated much controversy because it went against both parents’ direct request and because it generally reversed the early decision to seal the papers in the best interest of the child. It was revealed that six years previously, Jeri had accused Jack Ryan of asking her to perform sexual acts with him in public, and in sex clubs in New York, New Orleans, and Paris. Jeri Ryan described one as “a bizarre club with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging from the ceiling.”[13] Jack Ryan denied these allegations. Although Jeri Ryan refused to comment on the matter during the campaign, the document disclosure led Jack Ryan to withdraw his candidacy, clearing the way for Barack Obama to win the seat.”

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeri_Ryan

I’m not sure how Jeri survived the public exposure of these facts, because usually, you get silenced if you talk about this stuff. Was she replaced? Haven’t had time to look into it.

Anyway, suffice it to say that there is a lot of gatekeeping going on in the world of the arts, and for whatever reasons, passing through those gates usually involves a lot of terrible relinquishment of one’s free will, sexual well-being, spiritual sovereignty, and worse.

The negative gatekeepers need a certain amount of true artists, lightworker types who are more fueled by love and innocence, and sometimes such types are targetted to be moved to a higher level of the playing field while AT THE SAME TIME keeping them surrounded by relatively nice “handlers” who don’t corrupt them…..at least, not yet. But it seems that everyone in that industry has to make the choice between corruption or getting out of the industry at some point. Drugs and alcohol and spiritual possession make it easier to say, “Screw it, I’ll do anything to get a job.” But a lot of people who try to make it okay within themselves end up the victims of replacement later on, because at some point, they usually do protest or get what’s called “a big mouth” and give that one revealing interview or comment to the media that can get them in real trouble.

The Bristol Palin stuff is really interesting because it’s all pretty much poorly hidden in plain sight. There are a bunch of bloggers who were silenced when they started really hammering the evidence about Sarah Palin covering for Bristol’s pregnancy with Trig. A few survived, most notably http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com and http://palingates.blogspot.com. Gryphen of Immoral Minority actually has boots on the ground and lives in the same town as the Palins and has been dutifully chronically the Wasilla Mafia that silences people who mention ANYTHING negative about the Palins. Her people called up the school where he worked and reported him as a child molester to get him fired. Not to mention publicizing his name, license plate number, and worse. There are so many brave citizen journalists who are trying to do the real work of exposing the powers that be, and since Palin is supported by Karl Rove and Rupert Murdoch, things have gotten even bloodier around her in recent months. One nurse who helped care for Bristol Palin’s child, Trig, after he was born prematurely with what was most likely Fetal Alcohol Syndrome had her house set on fire, her dogs drugged, and she and her dogs died. Horrible stuff.

About the Olsen Twins from Full House – I don’t have any firsthand knowledge of them, all I know is the twins ALWAYS creeped me the f**k out! Like they were possessed as very, very little girls maybe. Then when the one Olsen twin just happened to own the apartment where Heath LEdger overdosed, and the massage therapist who found the body (hint: she wasn’t a massage therapist but a hired sex worker) called the Olsen girl first instead of 911, that just seemed to be par for the course with them. Remember the satanic blood sacrifice type feeling of Heath Ledger’s death, coming just as Batman was coming out, and how the whole morbid situation ended up creating huge box office receipts – not to mention a posthumous Oscar nomination for poor Heath? Think that wasn’t all manipulated every step of the way?

It’s all about looking at the connections that these people plug into. You’ll find a lot of nasty and juicy stuff that way

I’m just going to throw this out there about Rod Stewart and maybe you guys and gals can look into it more at some point if you want to.

Sometime between 1967-1989 I encountered Rod Stewart (or perhaps Fod) on the streets of Atlanta. It was right in front of Tower Records downtown, not too far from where Rod was performing for a couple of nights at the Fox theater. He was wearing an almost cliched rocker’s jumpsuit, a one piece brightly colored, unwashed and dirty, outfit, and he looked slovenly and unkempt. The thing that struck me was that he had the most horrific skin you ever saw – acne covering every half inch of his face. Now, that sometimes happens when stars have a bad allergy to stage makeup and there’s not a lot you can do about it. But he also looked like he had deeply pock-marked skin from lifelong acne. His hair was stringy, bleached blonde, and yucky looking.

I was walking with my friend at the time heading into the store, and Rod/Fod perked up when he saw me. He chatted me up for a moment, and he even offered an invitation to a party he was hosting later that night after he performed, but the whole thing took place in this surreal ten minutes or so during which I was mostly going, “Is that really Rod Stewart? Something is really off here.” I gently said I was busy, thanked him, and headed into the store. He had already left the store with a bag of purchases so he continued out to his bus or his taxi or his limo or whatever, I didn’t wait to see.

Later that week I heard anecdotes from some of my performer friends who lived downtown that there had been lots of Rod Stewart sightings during the time he was in town. Just like I had seen, he didn’t travel with any security, didn’t have a girlfriend or wife on hand, and kept inviting people to a big party at the Marriott Marquis I believe – I think he was staying there.

I didn’t know anybody who actually WENT to his party, though.

Thing is, later on (and there wasn’t any Internet to speak of back then, so I couldn’t look him up online) I looked at some friends’ record covers, Rolling Stone mags, and so forth and the guy featured on those didn’t look anything like the guy I saw. The guy I saw was maybe 5’9 or 5’10 and his accent wasn’t particularly noticeable, he sounded more American than Brit.

The freedom with which the guy was wandering around town seemed odd. Admittedly Atlanta is a second tier type of city, hardly a New York or LA, but he was wandering around on his own without ANY entourage at all. And he didn’t seem drugged up or drunk, in fact he seemed kind of nice and polite and friendly. (He still could have been high, though, but it didn’t seem like he was obviously so.)

So anyway – I have always wondered what the hell that was. Did I see a replacement?

In more recent Net searches I do see some discrepancies that might hint at replacement, but it’s also possible I saw a stunt double, stage understudy, or hired “double” who was simply on call that weekend.

The weirdest thing was how OBVIOUS the whole “I’m a rock star and I’m walking around town in my yellow rocker’s one piece jumpsuit going to the Tower Record store” thing was. Like it HAD to be an actor pretending to be him. Doing a poor imitation.

But who knows?

Tabasco, I do think that many stars begin as innocent, spiritually sensitive beings with immense talent and that some of them end up surrounded by or working for dark people, dark organizations, and dark NON humans (ET’s or hybrids) and once that stuff happens, they can barely control what happens next. However, you do have to WANT to make it in show business and have that desire – to reach the point where you say, “Screw it, I just want the work.” That invites in the other stuff – the possession, the prostitution, and worse. Unfortunately, though, sometimes it will be a person’s agent, manager, parent, producer, or director boyfriend who dominates the decision making process, and the artist might be naive or powerless about saying “No.” It’s all very, very sad.

Clones and synthetics – I’m not really sure what all is going on there, myself. I do have a theory that sometimes horrific plastic surgery, of the type that really is more mutilation than beauty improvement, can sometimes be done as a form of torture to bring the star “in line.” I can’t look at some celebs like Mickey Rourke, Heidi Montag, and Ashley Simpson without thinking “Maybe the original is still in there but they were tortured into shutting up or falling in line in some way.” So using extreme surgeries as a form of torture and abuse might happen long before someone is actually replaced, or maybe in place of replacement. But then some real plastic surgery DOES take place to make replacements look like the originals, too, or to even “improve” upon the originals. So it all gets very confusing.

Jezebel.com has had a lot of interesting exposes of how blatant the extreme use of PHotoshopping has become on magazine covers – not really a surprise, but interesting. So you’ll see an actress who is perfectly fit get PHotoshopped down to a size zero waist just because the sick as f**k editors are part of the agenda promoting women to be undernourished, weakened, and submissive.

(That’s a whole different story, magazine editors. The few nice ones I worked with were few and far between and they were often replaced by the very literal WHORES that owners like SI Newhouse would bring in to take over his various publications. Whole different war story there. YUCK. All of the arts are so horrifically controlled by yucky, possessed and/or non human beings. )

About the potential incest thing……put it this way. At least TWO bloggers who were covering the anomalies of the birth/conception/delivery of the Down Syndrome child we now know as “Trig Palin” BRIEFLY mentioned the incest thing and a WHOLE LOT OF HURT happened for both women. Death threats, one got sued, and more. Maybe it was from Sarah’s “fans,” but maybe there was more to it. The parentage of Sarah’s own children is mixed. Curt Menard was mysteriously killed when someone put stuff in his fuel line and he flew his small plane and crashed. This was after a reported affair with Sarah. It is likely that Track Palin, who looks just like Curt Menard and granddaddy Menard (the ears especially are a giveway,) is the son of Curt. And there are questions about Sarah’s other children and them not belonging to her current husband Todd.

The scariest stuff as you research the family are the shady origins of CHuck Heath, Sarah’s dad. He remade his own history and looks like he had to leave one state and flee a couple of times. Lots of revisionist history around that man. PHotos of him show a possessed being who is not human. Also, he has been openly quoted regarding Sarah having little kids around in saying that “little kids are always losing their underwear” and other horrific quotes that hint at sexual abuse in that family.

Then you look at the family’s scary Dominionist ties, and how Dominionists are working hard to bring on Armageddon and the Rapture, and within their sect they encourage lying to non-believers because non-believers are literally considered NOT REAL, or demons, and you start to see more of the nasty pathology.

Different subject – going back to the whole idea of dopplegangers.

Traditionally a doppleganger is considered a double, either a physical being or a non-physical being, which mimics someone else in every way, to the point that people get confused as to who is real and who is the “original.”

One of the most famous doppleganger stories was of Percy Bysshe Shelley, husband of Mary Shelley of Frankenstein fame. Not long before Shelley’s death his friends reported seeing him walking outside a window of the house, but it wasn’t him because the real Shelley was somewhere else at the time. Since he died soon afterward, there were whispers that that had been a doppleganger – which can often be said to be a harbinger of the original’s death.

If you travel at all in this world and happen to work in a field in which you are exposed to lots of strangers, you soon see that there are only a certain amount of body/skin/voice/personality types out there.

In my work as an actress I’d regularly move to a new town, end up living in close quarters with thirty complete strangers, and get to be very close to those new friends during the time we’d work on a show together.

What struck me after a few years of doing this is that I was starting to see doubles everywhere. Certain “types” kept repeating themselves. Amongst gay men, for instance, I kept seeing repetitions of almost the exact same type of man over and over again. Very eerie when you’ve travelled to a new part of the country, the guy has a different name, and he sounds, looks, and acts exactly like someone you befriended months before in a different state, on a different acting job.

When you haven’t travelled much, you don’t see this stuff. But it’s real.

So that DOES mean that the frequency of NATURAL physical/voice/and personality doubles is higher than you might think – unless you have travelled a lot and spent time with tons of strangers as a gypsy performer type like me has.

Then I went on to do counselling for a decade and worked with thousands upon thousands of strangers. And I saw doubles ALL THE TIME. These weren’t just people who looked alike, talked alike, etc. Their ISSUES and problems, the dynamics they were experiencing in relationships, family, and work, repeated themselves. So I’d meet someone through a referral who lived in one state and talk with her and she would almost exactly mirror somebody I’d met five years earlier in a different situation, different state, and the issues the person was dealing with were exactly the same.

Some people talk about “twinning” as a programming phenomenon, and this is when two people, unbeknownst to each other, are chosen from birth to lead eerily parallel lives, experience similar mind control, patterns in their lives, and so forth. They may or may not eventually meet.

But I’m not really talking about that.

I’m talking about the fact that we aren’t that original. We like to think we are. But if you travel around from state to state, talk with and intersect with thousands of people in each state, you are going to find people who are very similar to other people, and this isn’t necessarily something that has been manipulated. It can be entirely natural. The people who resemble each other might not ever know each other.

I’ve had a lot of times in this lifetime when people have sworn up and down that they know me and knew me. Sometimes by a different name. As a little girl visiting with distant family in Kansas I had a group of schoolchildren my age (I was in sixth grade at the time) swear that my name was something else and they all really liked this other girl and were happy I had come back.

I’ve had people I met through children’s theater tours, both students and administration, swear that they knew me already – by a different name.

The weirdest celeb-related experience I had where someone swore they already knew me was with Remington Steele actress Stephanie Zimbalist.

In 1989, after Remington Steele had ended, (and I believe before her former costar Pierce Brosnan was taking over the Bond franchise – or maybe he was just starting to?) Stephanie was doing a few TV movies. She did a move for the Hallmark Hall of Fame people called “Caroline?”

The plot of the movie was weird. In it, Stephanie played a woman who took over another woman’s identity – pretending to be the real Caroline – so the movie was all about a double taking over for the original.

I was just a day player, an extra with no lines, and I had a couple of days work doing background scenes. It was set in the 1950’s so we had to get dressed by the costume people in period outfits and makeup and hair, which was fun. I was dressed and then sent to a trailer to get my makeup and hair touched up. Stephanie Zimbalist was already in the trailer getting her hair and makeup done. She was talking with some of her people and I didn’t inject myself into the equation, not knowing if she was one of those stars who hated people to bother her or not.

But she saw me right away and her eyes got big, and she said, “Hi, I know you! You were on that other set – ” And she went on to describe how she and “I” had gotten to know each other really well, struck up a friendship, on the set of another project she had done. But she couldn’t remember my name.

I said, “Um, Ms. Zimbalist, I’m glad you and that other woman had such a nice chat, but I’m afraid it wasn’t me. ” And I told her who I was and how I lived in Atlanta (we were filming in a pretty old neighborhood in Atlanta, just a few blocks from where I lived at the time.)

She was polite but really surprised. She said, “No, you’re (so and so) and I remember talking to you, and it’s nice you’re here again and we get to work together again.”

She was really insistent that I was this other person.

I don’t know if it was because I was in costume, wearing a nice woman’s tailored suit from the 1950’s, with my hair back, or what – but Stephanie really thought she had met me before.

I didn’t get to talk to her anymore that day as I was just doing background work and Stephanie was only in some of the scenes, anyway.

But isn’t that weird?

To me it just shows you how easily a double can pretend to be the real thing – even if the double was me!

And given my travels, I know for a fact that body types, skin types, profile, mannerisms, tone of voice, and personality REPEAT THEMSELVES FREQUENTLY.

So it wouldn’t be at all hard say, if you were trying to “recruit” a certain type of double, to canvas the population and locate people who closely resembled other people.

I don’t think “cloning” is required, at all. The naturally occurring doubles out there in the population are rich and frequent. Perhaps cloning does take place, but from what I’ve observed, finding natural doubles is pretty easy.

I’ve never seen the show (True Blood) but always liked Anna Paquin. I’ve about had it with vampire culture, though. The mass indoctrination to appreciate, welcome, and embrace soul draining esoteric entities, but embodied and disembodied, is exactly the core of the spiritual dilemma we remaining humans face on this planet right now. Stories that celebrate vampire culture have all the same crap running through the productions, through the energy fields of the actors, in my opinion. So stay shielded when you watch the show, ‘kay?

Fine. Have fun!

Do you know any real life vampires?

I do.

I live in an area of the country where Anne Rice’s biographer, Katherine Ramsland, is operating her own little Satanic blood letting vampire cult. Her “day job” is as a professor of death sciences – excuse me, forensic studies- at a university. The glorification of dead flesh, autopsies, murders, psychokiller pathology, etc. Fun stuff.

I know a young gay guy who was killed by one of her worshipper/followers following along with the whole culturally pervasive MINDf**k that is vampire pop culture.

So how does that tie in to your innocent viewing of a popular vampire show?

It does. It speaks to the larger culture, whether you want to look into the esoteric side of it or not.

Katherine Ramsland and I have met and she is not human. Pale, blonde, blue-eyed, but with that classic Nordic/albino reptilian fleshy face that looks like a rubber mask.

I had to shield myself psychically the whole time i was in the room with her because she had all this CRAP coming out her energy field trying to latch onto my own energy and drain the sh*t out of me.

But you know, there’s nothing wrong with vampire culture. It’s all just good, wholesome, f**king fun.

Just like the rest of it.

Innocent performers who are trying to bring beauty into this world who get taken over and possessed, financially, sexually, spiritually and in astral/dreamspace by all these same assh*le entities — no harm done, right?

Have fun.

It’s fun. It’s always entities in somebody’s energy field, entities someone has given PERMISSION to be there in their field, that drive me off these boards. I can deal with the real life death threats, attempts on my life, psychic attack, all the usuall yada yada ba boom that I’ve been putting up with for thirty f**king years.

But see – it’s the Artemis’ of the world that always are the gatekeepers on these forums. Carissa, you know what I”m talking about, ‘right?

Same person, same critters, same stuff.

Masquerading as truth seekers. Then the entities show.

Really interesting stuff.

As I said before, I’m out of here, but best wishes to The Mask, Sherlok, and others.

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About Jane Fonda and the various possible Fanes……I remember in an interview she did (one of the Fanes probably?) she said that when she first came to Hollywood and tried to get work she was told very plainly that she was going to need to have a LOT of physical alterations in order to be “qualified” to work in the industry. I remember one of the alterations she mentioned was that people told her she was going to have to have her jaw broken and realigned to be considered camera worthy. She did not mention in this interview if she had agreed to have this process done, but she said it in a very matter of fact way, as if starlets having their jaws broken was absolutely a commonplace occurence in the 1960’s in the Hollywood mill.

Now, of course, this was probably a Fane telling this story – because I watched this interview sometime in the late 80’s or early 90’s, and she was probably replaced at least once by that point. Perhaps she said this to explain aware the severe differences in her face shape between her early days as a starlet and later times.

But it really struck me – we tend to think of things like nose jobs, breast jobs, and the like as relatively newish required procedures for starlets. But this stuff has been pretty commonplace since at least as far back as the 1950’s/1960’s. Jaws broken? Sounds pretty extreme, doesn’t it?

Another thing that struck me in that Fane interview was how calm and unconcerned she was describing this stuff – sure speaks to the mind control that wannabe celebs step into where they will do literally anything to their bodies to get work in Hollywood – and the horrible enslavement of the women, too.

It has long been rumored that Marilyn Monroe was an early recipient of silicone injections to her body/torso – the early version of a boob job – and that chronic pain stemming from this procedure was part of what nearly drove her mad, led to her severe emotional ups and downs, and her drug and alcohol addictions. I think it might well be a contributing factor if Farilyn the replacement had all of that stuff done to her. (I’m not talking about the original Norma Jane here, obviously.)

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Last post today, I promise!

About Jennifer Connelly. I can say with 100% certainty that the “Fennifer” we see today is not the Jennifer I worked with on a John Hughes film called Career Opportunities. I didn’t get to act with her much, but I did see her film several scenes. At that time I only knew her from Labyrinth, and I knew she had been a model.

Back then she had a more – elfin – quality than Fennifer has ever had. Hard to describe. But definitely there was an overall look to her features, especially since she was about 19 or so when she filmed this and she was young, of a slightly off kilter elfin quality. All the features were “perfect,” but the symmetry made you think “supernatural, beautiful creature” instead of plasticized girl.

One thing I was shocked by at the time was that a lot of the crew and production team, including the assistant director, were making really dismissive and nasty comments about her. I remember them arrogantly asserting that if this film didn’t work commercially, if it wasn’t a success, then “it would be over for her.” Or they might have said “It’s all over for her.”

I was really struck by the implied violence of that statement. And these people were drop dead serious as they said this. I heard this said by two crew members and also by the assistant director at separate points in several days worth of filming as they were standing around before and after scenes were filmed. At the time I just dismissed it as the cruelties of show business and how you only get one shot sometimes at a big breakthrough role. But since learning about how many replacements are happening, this statement keeps haunting me as I consider its implications.

The film didn’t do well at the box office at all, and you didn’t hear from Jennifer again until she did The Rocketeers which did okay commercially. And she did a movie where she was topless and was suddenly in the limelight again. I think at this point it was all Fennifer, though. It’s like the original quiet, shy, and pretty girl I observed is gone and this version is more womanly (bigger in her frame and curvier than Jennifer was. The Jennifer I saw was tallish and skinny all over. No extra flesh anywhere! More of a classic waif thin model physique. )

One thing that they did seem to get right with Fennifer is the eyebrows. The seem pretty close to the original’s eyebrows. I’m amazed at how they can get the really bushy eyebrow look on a woman who doesn’t have thick eyebrows, but they can do it. The most dramatic illustration of eyebrow transplants is the new Megan Fox- Fegan. You’ll see in some early photos of Megan that at one point she had extremely thin, over-plucked eyebrows. Once you’ve damaged the eyebrow line to that extent it doesn’t grow back out into a full bushy line again. The Fegan has perfect, thick brows, and they look so perfect you can tell the hair is a transplant. (Yes, they DO eyebrow transplants. Kind of a common procedure if a woman has overplucked and doesn’t have a good eyebrow line anymore.)

Mask – Yes, I’m not entirely sure that the Jennifer Connelly replacement came in that early, either – only that she definitely was replaced at some point. Very sad because the girl I got to see on the set was very sweet, hard-working, creative, and dedicated to what she was doing. Why get rid of her? She seemed compliant and willing to do everything director John Hughes asked of her, and Hughes seemed very happy with her work. She would come up with little improvisations to the scenes and he loved all the little things she added. Like she was filming a scene where she was shoplifting and she was supposed to go from point a to point b in a store. She added lots of funny little moments along the way, interacting with a woman who was an extra whose character was supposed to watch her and discover she was shoplifting. Everything was unscripted and she had great natural timing and instincts. She would seem “perfect” in the sense of being a good actress – but something went on behind the scenes, obviously, to end up in a replacement situation. My guess is the casting couch. It’s not usually just a casting couch – in show business it’s like with modelling, they also usually prostitute young actresses out to other powerful people. Maybe that’s where she drew the line? Or went along for a while, got the Rocketeer movie, that other drama where she was topless, and then had enough?

Artemis – I had forgotten about actresses having their back molars removed. You’re right, that was common, to give actresses that high cheekboned look. I just was kind of shocked at the idea of having your entire jaw broken and realigned as Fane Fonda was talking about in that interview. Surely, such severe reconstructive surgery would take a long time to recover from? Anybody here ever had a broken jaw? Wouldn’t it be many months of recovery? Sounds horrible, doesn’t it!  

PS About the casting couch and prostituting out young models and actresses – this was why I gave up on show business. I could post a lot of stuff about this but it might not be appropriate in this thread. Suffice it to say that I had a TV show host, an assistant director on another TV show, and several “modelling agents” pretty much present the classic deal with the devil. You get work on TV or in films, but you work sporadically since jobs are not always available and the competition for women in the industry is so bad. In between you earn a living as a call girl/escort and you’re often working for the same people who are in a position to get you bigger and more consistent acting work, so you want to stay on their good side. It’s kind of a “pay to play” situation. You pay with your sexuality and remain on call 24/7 for these creepy guys, and if you’re lucky, you might get some real acting work out of the deal. I kept ending up right at the brink of getting serious TV roles and some movie parts and always hit that wall where it was pretty much “do this or we just get the next girl to do it.” There’s no incentive for the system NOT to do this because so many men and women fall into it willingly.

I think this tends to happen more with unconnected people. I’m a nobody, no blue blood connections or money or anything. So I had to actually go to acting school, slave to get parts anywhere I could, and gradually try to approach acting like a real career. I wasn’t one of those connected types who could make a phone call to my uncle fresh out of screenwriting school and instantly get a job on network TV as a writer. That stuff happens all the time. There are basically two tiers in show business. People who are legitimate in the sense that they actually have talent and don’t have connections – but they’re willing to prostitute themselves in some way (and if they change their minds, they probably get replaced at some point if they’re famous enough.) And then there are those with connections who might have talent or might not, but they end up making good money and steady money in the biz usually due to their insider contacts.

I think they must be connected somehow. Why do the replacements seem to have a standard issue pointy/funky jawline? It’s very weird to me.

Speaking of weird jaws, check out this un-Photoshopped version of Fennifer Aniston from a recent magazine cover – very different from the Photoshopped version:


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The version without Photoshop is pretty horrifying, actually. She kind of has that look that people get when they’ve had too much reconstructive facial surgery and as they get a little older it starts looking like parts of their face are falling off.

Also on Jezebel they recently posted a picture of Katy Perry as a child. I think she was mentioned here as a possible replacement, but then others say she wasn’t replaced – I’m not sure myself but I figure this might be useful for comparision purposes:

http://jezebel.com/5619470/katy-perrys-k….k-cheesy-posing

Oh dear, I think we may have a Fusan.

(Bear with me – I still need to get a handle on image posting -)

Is this young woman from Rocky Horror the same as the woman presented as Susan Sarandon many years later?

Young Susan:

http://templeofgodrobert.blogspot.com/20….ctuer-show.html

Fusan of today’s era: (photo notes say it’s from 2005)

http://www.digitaljournal.com/img/9/0/1/2/2/1/i/4/5/3/o/Susan_Sarandon_2005.jpg

If it’s the same woman, how did she go from a much thinner, more aquiline nose as a young woman to someone whose nose got a lot pointier? The second photo almost looks like she has a fake nose on.

The rest, I’m not sure of – needs more examining for sure .

Mask, I will think about doing that – thanks for the encouragement! Although I probably should have posted that last bit in your “Use and Abuse of Celebrities” thread.

I have tales from a lot of film sets and TV sets to share. Plus a lot of stories about actors and performers and sad things that happened to them.

Maybe we could start a thread for people who make it to this forum who have firsthand observations of celebrities (from meeting them or seeing them in concert) and who also have experience working in show business? Because I think that might be useful and it would also be a good place to share some of my firsthand experiences in the meantime.

And then if others come along with these types of experiences they can contribute there. Even if you’ve just seen a celebrity in concert, and you suspect a replacement, you could write about that in that thread. Or if you had a run in with a celebrity in another setting like a book signing or whatever, that could go in the thread. Remember the person who reported Debbie Reynolds acting all zombied out at a book signing? Those types of stories would be great there, too. The idea would be to post anomalous things that aren’t quite RIGHT about celebrities that tie in to the idea of replacements, clones, etc.

I remember you had a poster here a while back who had some firsthand observations from film sets – I think he wrote about seeing Brad Pitt act like a zombie? And he and posters like him could chime in there, too. What do you think?

Help me come up with a good title for the thread! Something like “Inside Peek at Celebrities and Show Business?” I dunno, help me brainstorm!

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Hi Mask – (*pause for a big sigh*)

I think it’s extremely complex and that it gets into a lot of esoteric territory. Like, allowing something else to come into your body and possess you physically, emotionally, and sexually.. Deal with the devil stuff. And I’m not really talking about Lucifer as a Biblical entity, because, who knows, it sounds like he was the same as the entity Marduk from the ancient Sumerian texts, who in turn sounds exactly like the bloodthirsty Jehovah/Yahweh who is the founding father of the Judeo/Christian faiths.

But I’ve been presented with this “deal” a lot of times. As an actress and as an author. Turned it down every time after sensing the horrible energy of what it would entail – literally having your entire being and free will consumed by something awful.

I know, very science fiction. I don’t want to get into too much high weirdness here – although I know you folks can handle it!

I want to start my “Close Encounters with Celebrities” thread which I hope will explain what I’ve seen in more detail. A lot of actors and actresses I know took the deal, I’m afraid. It didn’t work out well for any of them. None of them became famous or powerful enough to end up being replaced, fortunately, I guess? But most of them ended up working as prostitutes, riddled with drug and alchohol addiction, and worse, even at the very lowest echelons of the entertainment industry.

There are a lot of layers and I don’t think the players necessarily know what is going on, themselves. I will post more, promise!
The rest, I’m not sure of – needs more examining for sure.

Re: Jennifer Connelly in particular – all I can say about her is that, given what I’ve experienced and seen within the industry, it’s likely at some point that she was “required’ to do a certain amount of prostitution to powerful industry people and maybe objected to that? Usually after you agree to do that you end up getting much more powerful roles, and you can, if you’re very lucky, end up fast tracked to an Oscar, etc.

All I know is that the Jennifer Connelly who won an Oscar is not the original. Which is sad. I think the original was very nice and talented!

On a more esoteric level, there are other things going on related to soul loss and spiritual/emotional damage, which are usually brought on by someone agreeing to become a prostitute/gay escort (depending on one’s sex), and then that usually ends up creating alcoholism and drug use in the person because they are trying to make their situation feel okay when it most definitely ISN’T okay….and somewhere along the line dark energies come in. Or the person finally wakes up, protests, and then they are killed off and replaced. Lots of nastiness unfortunately.

How about AFTER they are replaced?

I don’t know. I don’t have any firsthand or anecdotal information about what really is going on post-replacement, unfortunately. So I do think it’s complex most likely. I definitely don’t think it’s as simple as one of the Paul McCartney/Faul scenarios floating around, with the original horribly disfigured and disabled after a car accident, and Faul coming in to preserve the brand. (Some say he was disabled and lived in seclusion afterwards; some say he was killed.) But it’s possilbe that that situation spawned the replacement thing becoming more pervasive and “in your face” since they were able to effectively repress most of the “Paul is Dead” rumors and pass of Faul pretty well with the masses. Maybe that encouraged the new, much more common and frequent, scenarios of replacement? Because that one was so successful. (Not that it was the first. As you and others pointed out, folks like Frank Sinatra, Elvis, Doris Day, etc. predated the era of the Faul/Paul replacement. I just think post-Faul that the program went a lot “wider” and broader, became more frequent.)

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I think you’re right about Foan (Rivers, Joan). In the mid-90’s I did some (piss poor because I suck at it!) standup comedy at a club called Tatoo I think it was in NYC. Joan Rivers often performed in the main venue downstairs but she wasn’t there that night. I had a funny chat with a guy who was in the musical review downstairs that was being performed that night. We shared a smoke on the back steps that led from one floor to the other – his dressing room was up near the comedy club where I was performing. When he came marching up the steps he was clad head to toe in feathers and sequins, sort of a La Cage Aux Folles crossdressing theme going on in the show he performed in – it was all men dressed as women performing as different “stars”, faux Cher, faux Bette Davis, etc. Anyway, he said that I should come down and see the show if I could because there was a guy who sometimes would slip in and do a Joan Rivers walk on (as a Foan) and his voice, look, and mannerisms were so real that Joan herself would sometimes walk in behind him and do a five minute bit onstage where the tranny Joan was face to face with the “real” Joan. They usually only did that bit when Joan was physically in the house; she was apparently a good sport and loved poking fun at herself that way. But that night the tranny Joan/Foan was going to go on for a few minutes as Joan and see if people could tell whether he was the “real” Joan or not. Sort of an inside joke to the regular audience members who were in on the switcheroo.

I didn’t get to see him, nor did I get to see the “real” Joan/or Foan 2.0, 3.0 or whatever – but it would have been a trip! I was still waiting to go onstage for my own bit upstairs.

PS During many of Cher/Fher’s tours she has done this same bit where the show opens with the fake Fher singing a song and then the “real” Cher comes on to sing. Of course, the real Cher has been a Fher for a long time.

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Weird as frick is right. In my research I’ve come across scary stuff about various sacrifices of children, sort of the “pay to play” stuff that celebs do to retain their place in the system. And with the technology available now to keep preemies alive and well earlier and earlier in their gestation, stories like this where there suddenly isn’t a twin any more freak me the heck out. Was the twin sacrificed ritually? Or was it “given” to someone for DNA harvesting, etc.? Or it’s going to become a “spare” for when their other child grows up and starts dating Suri Cruise or one of Angelina’s kids and needs to be replaced somewhere along the way?

There is a long line of famous people who sacrificed a child, including many political figures. Or at least, mysteriously synchronistic “coincidences” about how many big politicians lost family members “tragically” at some point- and then, magically, their careers take off.

Off the top of my head – John Edwards who lost a teenage son: (from wikipedia)

“Wade was killed in a car accident when strong winds swept his Jeep off a North Carolina highway in 1996.”

Ah yes, the mysterious fatal car accident.

Political families have those a lot. Joe Biden’s wife and infant daughter died in another bad car accident, although his two sons survived. Biden lied over the years and said it was a drunk driver who did it, but apparently this blogger says that’s never been true:

“In an act of reprehensible cruelty, then-presidential candidate Sen. Joe Biden while campaigning in Iowa last year blamed the car accident in which his wife and daughter were killed on a drunk driver. The claim was completely false. The car accident was in fact his own wife’s fault. Apparently distracted by one of the three children in the car with her, she accelerated into the path of an oncoming truck which could not stop to avoid her car.”

(the above is from http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2008/….r-accident.html

Senior George Bush “lost” one of his daughters to leukemia.

“Another daughter, Robin, died at age three from leukemia”

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0760625.html#ixzz0xj2fGeQq

Funny how family members die, and then daddy’s careers take off.

I’ve tracked similar incidents in the entertainment/celeb world, so when Artemis mentioned the disappearance of the Travolta’s alleged twin, all this stuff crossed my mind again. I think sometimes the celebs themselves make the sacrifice, and sometimes it’s the parents who then manage their surviving child’s celebrity career and obviously benefit enormously from their child’s wealth, etc.

Eternity That was the case with Jennifer Hudson and Kanye’s mom. The pieces in the Jennifer Hudson never added up and when it happened I automatically knew that it was a ritual sacrifice. They never really accused anyone and the man whom they wanted to blame the creime on, William Balfour, the sister’s boyfriend, said that he was not around at the time and has never been charged.

And Jennifer Hudson may be another person to look into as possibly being replaced. She has lost an extreme amout of weight supposedly through Jenny Craig? or is it Weight Watcher’s? and is now the spokesperson. She doesn’t look the same and lost that weight way too fast(another sign to watch). It could also be part of her programming knowing that starvation is part of the torture that goes along with programming.

She did have a long hiatus after here mother, brother, and nephew were killed, and is now out of the spotlight it seems again. I also suspected that her nephew was raped before he was killed as part of the sadistic ritual.

Good points! Jennifer Hudson is definitely one to watch.

I remember that Venus and Serena Williams lost a sister a while back, allegedly to a violent shooting I believe – the sister lived in a “bad neighborhood” in L.A. supposedly. Why would the sister of these multi-millionairesses be living in a bad neighborhood? Sounds like she was a toss-away to help them keep earning their millions – or maybe dad had her taken out. I always thought their dad was creepy. Like Tiger Woods’ dad, training his child/children from a young age to be sports prodigies, willing to do anything to make that happen. Also speaks to the idea of the illegal sports performance/enhancing drugs that are available in the higher echelons – creating superhero type performers like the Williams sisters, Tiger Woods, and Lance Armstrong.

Eternity Do not forget that singer Aaliyah was also killed in the Bahamas on the island of Abaco. I have heard that Aaliyah, and the pilot were still alive AFTER the plane crash just as Princess Diana. Why wasn’t there an attempt to save them??? It is also said that Aaliyah was killed by the people who made Queen Of The Damned in order to boost movie sales, however, that was only a fraction. Poor Aaliyah was a sex slave anyways and was handed over by her parents and uncle.

98% of sports is fixed and alot of those players are under some sort of mind control, drug trafficking, sex trafficking, military op, etc. This is why many of them get into so much trouble have ‘suspensions’ or ‘rehab’ and are on hiatus. I have heard that Tiger Woods was ‘okay’ until he began association with Michael Jordan (another shady character) and Charles Barkley. MJ’s father had ties to the mob as well as MJ. His father also molested their sister during childhood. She wrote about it in a tell all book and MJ immediately halted paying for her daughter’s (his neice’s) college education.

I never did buy those stories of relatives being left behind in these bad neighborhoods, so to speak. Never sounded right. Professor Griff of Public Enemy fame has a series on youtube about the Entertainment cabal and the ritual sacrifices these “celebrities” have to make if they want to be in the “millionaire” club.

I know a lot of elderly gay men in my area, many of them formerly in positions in the arts (usually people like costumer designers on Broadway, artists who had gallery exhibitions and have art in the major museums, and some stage performers) who swear that AIDS was around long before it was talked about in the mainstream media. One man I sometimes have breakfast with says after HIV began to be more talked about he realized that his deceased lover must have had it. The guy was sick for many years with the typical AIDS-related diseases, most noticeably wasting disease and Karposi’s Sarcoma (that sad condition where the patient gets the horrible black lesions all of his body.) This was around 1975 when the man died of these things, and his partner survived and is still around today. His survivor never tested positive for HIV, though.

One angle we should consider with replacements is that if a celeb suddenly exhibits that classic wasting disease you see so often with HIV sufferers, we should look to see if a healthier-looking, bulkier replacement of them shows up on the scene later. If so, it might mean that 1) the original was killed off by having HIV injected into their system so a replacement would take over the “brand” or 2) that the person simply has HIV.

One version of Fom Cruise that was around a while back seemed to have wasting disease to me. Then that newer, sexier version of Fom has been around in recent years. (Not Fat Fom who looks like he’s eaten too many cheeseburgers; he’s not the sexy younger looking on they’re parading around these days.)

It also seems like George Clooney (or Feorge?) is looking very wasting diseasey lately, and is likely suffering from HIV. Usually people hit that stage towards the end of their life. My friend who died of HIV looked like this a few months before he died. So we should keep our eyes open in case a thin-looking, emaciated George has one of his little “motorcycle accidents” like he’s had before and reappears later looking bulkier and healthier. Those might be markers for a potential replacement.

Again, I’m just speculating, but I wanted to share some thoughts on this.

And don’t forget the old CIA induced “heart attack.” I believe that can be done with directed energy weapons. Especially startling when it happens to someone who was a social dissenter of some kind who had zero history of heart problems. I know two people this happened to. One survived, one didn’t. The one who didn’t worked as an engineer on one of the “Mars Rovers,” a new one they’ve been working on through John Hopkins Applied Physics Labs in recent years. He was also working with something involving bouncing information from satellites off of cell towers. I don’t remember the exact technology because it was way over my head when he spoke about it.

He was a think outside the box guy and while I didn’t know him well, he was in my extended family. Over the years he seemed to be a non-conspiracy person, meaning, he didn’t believe we had been to Mars before, and he didn’t believe that there was life on Mars, although he hoped there could be.

But the last time I saw him, about six months before he died, he was starting to have a crisis of faith and was starting to be much more open to alternative info. I can’t say with absolute certainty WHAT he was looking into when he died, but I don’t think his sudden dropping dead of a heart attack right when one of his projects was getting “hot” (his words to his sons) is a coincidence. He was only in his 40’s, was healthy, happy in his job, no history of symptoms or problems. His sons never found all his research papers and computer files, either. It was a locked room CIA murder mystery where files were removed before his one son found his body at his apartment.

Then there is the guy who was a whistleblower recently about the Gulf oil spills, talking about how there were actually TWO wells with problems – and how he recently died drowning in his hot tub. Yeah, right.

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Okay. One of the things that has always struck me is how we can unknowingly find ourselves enjoying the performances of an artist over many, many years without consciously realizing that that person has been replaced along the way. But the more I’ve learned from studying the excellent research posted here, the more I’ve seen that I’ve often been a fan of a performer both before and after replacement, but on some level I do seem to register that a change has taken place. Like I enjoyed the pre-replacement David Bowie as well as much of the work that Favid did later on in the 80’s. I always wrote off his changes in style and look as costume and makeup-related, which was easy to do since when he was younger he enjoyed stepping fully into his Ziggy Stardust persona and burying himself under tons of theatrical makeup.

Another performer that has crossed my radar recently who in some ways is similar to Favid Fowie is Peter Gabriel. Like Bowie he started out when he was younger as an extremely theatrical performer who almost always obscured his features and body with extreme makeup and hair alterations (in some early performances he even shaved his hairline which gave him a weird faux balding appearance at a premature age.)

Like Bowie/Fowie, he has had many “lives” professionally. There was the early theatrical performer, and the later, mainstream 80’s guy who seemed more sexy and Top 40, with hits like Sledgehammer and a bunch of highly successful videos in the early 80’s (although as in his video Shock the Monkey he was often still barely recognizable because he was buried under so much makeup.)

Then he got into soundtracks and wrote award winning film scores like the one for The Last Temptation of Christ in the late 80’s (I love that score!)

Then later on he almost disappeared from the music scene and became heavily involved with projects involving the heavy promotion and production of “world music” and almost becoming like Bono with his world improvement causes – only Peter Gabriel‘s projects have mostly involved musical outreach, not so much general world charity or solving world hunger like Bono/Fono has involved himself with. More recently he has become heavily involved with trying to pioneer new ways for artists (especially minorities and artists from neglected nations) to get their work out there in various digital formats and distribution formats. Almost like setting up new distribution formats for independent musicians.

Career-wise it would seem like there were many points in his history where there could have been a replacement. This includes the juncture point where he left Genesis to pursue a solo career, and Phil Collins became the lead singer for Genesis.

To me Peter’s voice seems pretty consistent over time, with that unique husky texture to it. But oddly he hasn’t really released much new stuff in a long time, and the last major album he sang songs on was all cover songs from other artists, which seems odd to me. A great songwriter like him is covering everybody else? Makes sense if he’s just a Feter now, though!

So lately I’ve been looking at photos of him from his various epochs and I’m seeing different ear shapes and nose shapes, maybe even head shapes between the different Peters. I realize a lot depends upon finding photos of similar poses, or of the same ear views to compare, but here are some of the photos I’ve been looking at so far. I would appreciate any feedback from you eagle eyes out there to tell me if I’m barking up an unfruitful tree or not. Sometimes you can get a little too close to this stuff and THINK you see something, but it’s not really there.

I’ll start with the youngest photo I have found on him:

From the 1970’s sometime:

With Phil Collins:

Theatrical makeup:

I know it can be hard seeing differences in these early photos, but please stick with me and examine some as he got older:

Now we get into older photos of him – and this is where something starts to smell for me:

Where did that long, pointed schnozz come from? The early Peter had a relatively aquiline nose. Do noses get longer with age??????

Also notice how in all of his older photos (the more recent ones) he always seems to be sporting a goatee, so you can’t’ get a good look at his chin shape. In some of his younger photos he almost seems to have a slight cleft to his chin – in others, he doesn’t.

And the ears confuse me. I know older men can develop somewhat elongated “old man” ear. But you’ll see in the last photo he doesn’t seem to have that at all. The ear just looks different to me. When he was younger there was a bit of an elfin quality to his ears, almost a point. Now older Peter has perfectly rounded ears?

There might be some lip changes, too. I’m not sure.

Anyway, I hope I haven’t completely made a fool of myself with this post! It just came to me recently thinking about this stuff that Gabriel could be similar to Bowie in some respects – having multiple “incarnations” as an artist while secretly being replaced somewhere along the way. Maybe even twice!

He had a painful divorce around 1987 and disappeared from the scene from about 1988 to 1992. That’s one time frame that’s possible for replacement.

In reading his bio I’m struck by how involved he’s been with known NWO type/world improvement fronts like Amnesty International and so forth – but that all came post 1988.

“He also became well known as an anti-Apartheid activist, for his efforts to bring different styles of international music to the attention of the West by establishing the WOMAD (World of Music, Arts and Dance) Festival, his own Real World label and recording studios as well as the addition of world music performers and styles into his own music. He has also worked extensively for Amnesty International as well as many other humanitarian efforts, such as founding his own human rights organization Witness and co-founding, with Richard Branson and Nelson Mandela, world human rights advocacy group The Elders in July 2007. His dedication to humanitarian causes was recognized with the Nobel Peace Laureates’ Man of Peace Award in 2006 and Amnesty International’s Ambassador of Conscience honour in 2008. ”

A lot of that work came after that 1989 to 2002 break period.

For a successful hit maker in the 1980’s, he took a weird path after that. Only one album in 2002 that is somewhat reminiscent of his 80’s stuff, a more moody and thoughtful version of his material with some minor hits on it. And then no more vocal recordings really until 2010. His new album is a weird one, too – it’s all cover songs of other artists’ works. I heard a song from it recently and while it sounded like the distinctive husky voice from the 1980’s, I was thinking, “Gosh, these sound like castoff pieces he might have done a long, long time ago.” Meaning – why couldn’t they simply be extra music that the original Peter recorded a long time ago?

Same for his 2002 album. That one always struck me as possibly being “extras” that hadn’t been included on his last album from the 80’s. One thing we need to keep in mind is that when an album is being made, depending on the artist and how prolific they are, there can be double the amount of songs recorded as are actually used on that album. Sometimes more. So songs from the original Peter could have been archived and used later. So it’s probably very common for albums and songs using the original’s voice/talent are being released when it’s a replacement who has now taken over the rest of the brand.

He mostly has been doing soundtracks for TV and film during the periods between albums. Nice way for a replacement to be out of sight and not be observed. He’s also been very shy of press and rarely gives interviews, is rarely seen at events unless he’s getting an award, that type of thing. Probably because the nose is so damned noticeable!

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Donald Marshall’s highlight reel

If you have not read the Donald Marshall story you don’t understand this, but if you have, you should read this through. If you want to explore more about Donald here are some links:

But here’s the info about the Donald Marshall’s higlight reel and how they are trying to frame him:

The Highlight Reel

Guys make sure you let everyone know about the “highlight reel” that the Illuminati may use to bring down Don with them. the highlight reel consists of various clips of Donald Marshall running around as a clone under full mind control doing all sorts of evil deeds. they also had other people’s consciousness running clones of Don as well. the highlight reel is weeks long and has been put together with Hollywood quality editing and with the assistance of psychologists.

From Donald Marshall…

I must reiterate something—> The “Highlight reel” The Illuminati have a last ditch plan, in case everything goes my way. They want to drag me down with them… I’ve told you all before how most events at the cloning center are video recorded and kept for viewing later, freak porn torturing people this and that, but also they have been building an emergency measure against me. They’ve had me running around out there as a clone under full mind control, (most of the time you don’t even recall it) Doing and saying the most horrible things imaginable… they say they will introduce me to the world as the antichrist, that I am complicit with an alien loving cult, that I am the underground “leader” of the illuminati??? hahahahah Now listen up peeps, they have had hollywood quality editing and psychologists world over putting this “highlight reel” together. They threatened me with exposing it to the world, I said GO AHEAD it will only prove the cloning centers and Vrill exist… Elizabeth herself said the oblivious world will hate me… it does make me look really bad… they’ve had other peoples consciousnesses run clone bodies of me out there too, they all know how I talk, my mannerisms and impersonate me while doing unspeakable things out there. No one wants Vrill lizards eradicated more than I… When I asked them “after all I’ve been through, all the songs I helped you with all the ideas for tv n stuff, WHY would you try to do that?” Justin Timberlake’s clone from behind the hockey boards then said in a harsh whisper through clenched teeth “Because we need to protect ourselves.” with his best attempt at being intimidating. Someone reminded me when they mentioned Dajjal. Dajjal is another name for the antichrist, I think it’s the arab name for main evil bad guy… say’s in some book maybe Koran, some religion, that you will know Dajjal as his right eye bulges out like an over ripe grape or something. They have the ability to cause the right side of the brain swell from doing a certain kind of torture to your clone. Pretty much the same way they give you a remote aneurysm from the cloning center but they stop before you get the brain bleed, it does however cause swelling of the brain and they can make anyones eye pop out this way lol They are that desperate. They have built up days worth of negative content to make me look like Mr Prime Evil. I have to mention this again as they have threatened to release the footage. I’ve seen some of it, and it does look very bad… people not in the know on the situation may get the wrong idea… I don’t think it will work but they have had many professionals putting it together. They put a LOT of time and effort into it.

They also have many complicit scumbags there, illuminati members themselves that will say they have witnessed me doing these things and that I’m Mr Evil lol It’s a pretty pathetic plan put together by desperate losers.

highlight reel lol. weeks long, got me doing and saying the worst things you can imagine.

they might try to advertise me as the bad guy… you don’t understand how extensive the “highlight reel” is… it’s weeks worth of footage… me as clone on mind control and controlling drugs doing and saying the most evil things imaginable, not days worth of footage… weeks… hollywood editing and worlds top psychologists working together to try to make the world hate me… to bring me down with them.

They’ve said that too… that even showing people what they had me doing and just “making” the highlight reel will get them messed up bad… they then said they were just bluffing, trying to control what I will say in the end… they have no leverage to use against me…The “highlight reel” will doom them all the worse. I told them to please release it and expose my evil ways to the world… lol

They’ve done this to me many times… transfer my consciousness into a clone and drug me and have me run around retarded not knowing who I am and panicking… all I get is the pain… can’t even remember my name or past at the time… remember afterwards.

They’re confident that since they ALL did alot of evil stuff that not ALL of them will be prosecuted for it as there are too many people… also theyre all planning on claiming fear of Vrill made them act evil… they want to set up scapegoats and the rest get off scott free.

they have people on my friends list helping me, and hold in reserve the possibility of killing me near the end and having my “loyal helpers” carry the torch and twist things. lol

All for a last ditch effort to bring me down with them, or detract attention from themselves… it’s a lot of footage.

Sonya Goodman Maples They know they are losing the battle

Donald Marshall 95% of them want to lose intentionally… they just don’t want to be blamed and hurt themselves… Hence—> Donny Scapegoat.

Sonya Goodman Maples oh sure they want to play all innocent yet we know better

Donald Marshall Not all innocent… they are looking at me like a get out of jail free card… but that is not how it’s going to go.

the highlight reel is extensive, and edited footage of video they took of my daily events has been edited and altered by hollywoods best lol… Elizabeth and other crazies made them make it,… it was like a joke hobby to them for a while.

the smarter people there know it won’t work but encourage Elizabeth and the others to use it and release it, just so it will be over and they themselves can finally get out of there.

The highlight reel looks very bad… The years worth of footage running me around as clone doing and saying evil things under the influence of agitating drugs and mind control.They had me watch some of it while sitting in the stands and honestly all I did was cry uncontrollably. Because everyone else in the world that doesn’t know about me WILL TAKE IT AT FACE VALUE not knowing and will demand my death… Later they would regret it terribly but the it would be too late. They are threatening me with this weekly sometimes daily. I told them to throw it all on YouTube.

They do this with many. Sometimes they make someone kill someone as clones. Sometimes they induce them to rape a clone child in the ring as clones on video. With me they used every angle imaginable. My sex drive is even reduced. I’m very pissed about that. Like I can alwYs make my junk work lol. It’s not erectile dysfunction. LOL. They just made me think of it as more of a chore of chemical propagation. Bangin old pigs like Hilary Clinton there since I was 5…Grossed me out. Had to fist them too with my small hands n arms back then. They even shaved my clones arms…And worse.

Danny Dion – That is f@&ed up is all. Shits gotta end or someone gotta leave

Donald Marshall – Both

Danny Dion – they must not like that when their plans are exposed before it happens by the people of truth.

Donald Marshall – Nope they’re pissed.

Danny Dion – The time jump machine must be overloading juring these times of exposing of their information and plans

Donald Marshall – Too late for time bounce. I and my info are known now. Bouncing time back a day or a week will not matter nowwwwwww!!!! 🙂

Danny Dion – Great to hear but still a lot of work to do getting the info out there. Many of the people I talk to can’t seem to grasp the cloning and vrill truth. Seems like they’re numb to it and don’t want to believe it

Adair Dfwtf Sheppard – I hope when everything is revealed people will understand and not try to harm you. They have to understand..

Donald Marshall – Chickens. Lol. Common psychology. Being timid primates in essence we run first. But once they realize there is no escape and they must act? Well then it’s cornered animal n. Unleash the beast. 🙂

I hope that too but it looks bad. Very bad. Years worth of stuff. Overdone. You’d have to see the extent. Even when people see it. They’ll say. Umm ok. He’s a clone in a place he don’t wanna be. Why’d you keep bringing him there. That’s that.

Adair Dfwtf Sheppard – I dont really wanna see that. But it cant be worse than what others have done there right? And dont they impersonate clones of u with dif consciousness? Smart people will understand in the end.

Donald Marshall – Ha. Yeah in the end. But did they burn me at the stake by then? Lol

Adair Dfwtf Sheppard – Are they planning on releasing that footage first? Before your side of things gets released? :O

Donald Marshall – Just threatening it seems. They don’t even want me to mention the highlight reel. I think they were just trying to blackmail me. Because they don’t want people to know the things they’ve made me do…People go off just for that But then. Omg. Your helping alien body snatchers find hosts to parasite???’?!!!! Yep That’s that. OOOOH And your cloning our children for old perverts to fuck in their dreams???!!!?!?! Well. Good luck Elizabeth. LOL!!!! They would have killed me by now. They go on like I’m a big deal at cc Lotta songs n ideas n stuff They think I’m the Mack Still mean to me though. Jealous. And nothing to talk about to celebs there besides meeeeeeee Kinda Figured I’d be dead by now. Seriously. Wait till I get guns. 😀

Danny Dion – you think they are using you for somthing bigger that humanity doesn’t understand. like look at this hand while the other is playing another deception..how many layer of lies are there and is it worth going down that rabbit hole and getting lost in it .

Donald Marshall – Yes They’re trying to use me to invigorate the Christian faith. Make prophecy happen I’m the monkey wrench in their plan. As I’d always wanted to be since childhood.

Foo Fighters – Monkey Wrench

Song I made Btw. They told me that the world population of hosts was 1 in 10 when I made this. They let me put it in the song. Think that’s bad? Watch this.

Foo Fighters – Everlong

Remember how I said I smack clones? So my hands won’t break? Notice the rem activation and big M on his back. 🙂

Danny Dion – what do you do when all your enemies are friends yeah the lyrics are all you, its so clear now amazing

Donald Marshall – Glad you notice. I was punished for many lines of hinty lyrics. Punished badly as an excuse for a torture show.

Adair Dfwtf Sheppard – They dont watch over you to make sure u dont put too many hints?

Danny Dion – listen to past music ,there are hints everywhere and for many years. many punishments many songs

Donald Marshall – They thought it was a joke I made it fashionable to aliens to hint. 🙂 it was not easy. But now I/we will win.

Adair Dfwtf Sheppard – Hinted very well 🙂 n yes this has gone on waaay too long

Danny Dion – no kidding you had to be at your best every single time for them. fuck man i dont have a clue the shit you mustve went through. Sorry on behalf of humanity that you had to go through that shit since a child

Donald Marshall – Yes They think billions n power will satisfy me. But no. Justice and vengeance for all.

Alice Cooper – Vengeance Is Mine (Lyrics)

I made that and others for Alice Cooper.

Danny Dion – holy shit that was like totally in your face

Donald Marshall – Ya 2 more. Linkin park n gorillas

Adair Dfwtf Sheppard – Damn I wish everybody knew how big this shit is

Donald Marshall – “I designed this rhyme to explain in due time.”

Linkin Park – In The End (Official Music Video)

Danny Dion – lol its almost unbelivable. it freakn awsome to know this stuff

Donald Marshall – Then alla thisssssss. lol

Gorillaz – Clint Eastwood

Adair Dfwtf Sheppard – “The future.. Is comin on is comin, is comin on.”

Donald Marshall – It is. Good melody. I did most of it in one take.

Danny Dion – what went into the drummer then his eyes turned white

Donald Marshall – I wore the drummers yellow baseball cap as I freestyles. His name was Russell.

Danny Dion – so when you gonna let the sunshine out of your bag

Donald Marshall – It’s not the drummer. Separate guy with his hat. Me. 🙂 . Like genie in the lamp lol It was a bag of weed.

Adair Dfwtf Sheppard – You wore it all the time? Did u freestyle that song?

Donald Marshall – Yep His yellow hat. His head was so big he didn’t even snap the adjustable strap in the back.

Adair Dfwtf Sheppard – Damn do some people ever try to freestyle battle you at cloning?

Donald Marshall – Yeah. Goofy Eminem and some “battle rappers” talked circles around me but they practice and have set lines.

Adair Dfwtf Sheppard – Wow I bet you beat em easily 😉

Donald Marshall – Nope. They win. They practice with friends all the time. Mind you they never make songs that are used. Lol

Merri Cowden – Anyone who is not completely brain dead would have to wonder what kind of psychos would video tape the same person, for years, doing crazy, violent things.

Celine O’carroll – exactly Merri…….it would be so obvious that they themselves did nothing to stop it…so all they would be doing is further incriminating themselves.

Donald Marshall – Donny is right.

Ernest Lader – so wheres the link for the reel?

Donald Marshall – The illuminati haven’t shown the highlight reel publicly yet. They threaten to.

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Donald Marshall and Cloning Centers

If you have not heard about Donald Marshall it’s time to know and here are couple of sites you can check out:

>> Donald Marshall Facebook
>> Donald Marshall Board
>> Donald Marshall Website

Here he tells about so called Cloning Centers aka CC:

When they rape a child at the Cloning Centres they feel as if they’ve achieved a victory somehow over someone,..(the child) and get a sense of power from it, knowing that they won’t be caught for it because it will be covered up… Some of them go on drugs and kill the child afterwards because its some caveman thing,… Get rid of the evidence, sense of power not getting caught for childrape murder… Also…When a Vrill lizard drones someone making the human it’s host, sometimes the penis ceases to develop from that point… And the drone is stuck with 12 year old junk for life… And say they need to as the parts fit… And drones are naturally predisposed to molesting children,… Its very wierd.

Mostly it’s just some of these losers are fat ugly and would have a difficult time getting a prostitute to agree being that old ugly and retarded… Also they don’t want to. Pay for it,… They want to feel like they’ve done something wrong and got away with it… And kids cant fight back and are scared more easily. Also sometimes the molester was molested themselves as a child by their own parents… And they keep the “tradition” going to make themselves believe it’s just a normal part of life… Their parents weren’t perverts lol they were just normal, its a normal lifestyle lol. Some families add religion to the mix to make it look as if they HAVE to molest their children in a religious secret tradition… Germans call it Frauderlaine, or something similar… Keeps the cycle going…

At the zone…Theyre blabbin at me like I’m the diddler police,… As clones out there… Why can’t I have sex with my son or daughter Donny? My child is my personal property and no one can tell me what I can and can’t do with my own child if I want to ((they say))). So I told them it’s gross this n that and they act all insulted and attack,… Then new clone, back to the monotonous absurd talking… If I stay silent they just attack…saying “dont ignore us Donny, don’t ignore us!”. Fat old man bald ugly as hell flailing his arms on my face while my clone is paralyzed in the dirt of the arena…

I said why are you asking me?… They just have nothing to do or say out there…. Its basically a child molester factory, they keep the premise of oh Donny is going to get us all to have something to talk about besides assembly line child molesting… BECAUSE as clones at first its interesting, turn your pain sensors off and get your arm chopped off and no pain, staring at the stump whoah thats gross, They jump off of heights clone dies and they transfer into the next clone and theyre like whoah thats neat… Swordfight and dont die, occasional clone sex with a celebrity that just doesnt care, it loses the novelty after a very short time… AND then theres the child molesting… And the senior citizens there that KNOW no one wants to have sex with them,… So they spend most of their time there trying to look powerful scary deadly and scare children into never saying no…

People pretend they are hostages out there… Parents… So their kids wont think theyre just perverts… And the parents can secretly trade their kids around for other kids from other people there,… Grossest stuff you’ve ever seen or heard of ever… The league of incredible losers.

Incredibly yuck. Worse than you can imagine… And they all sit around and watch these encounters from the stands,… Like theatre… Molestation theatre, pain theatre, death theatre… They all try to act unified. LOL. They don’t even hang with each other in real life, too embarrassed of their behavior there and ashamed lol, but there while clones they all act like they’re friends… And they’re in power club together, theyre “powerful” hyuck.

It is that degree of loserdom and worse…

Every once in a while a kid will be defiant and say he or she doesn’t want to engage in the repulsive stuff… Other kids agree, it’s almost a mini mutiny at the cloning center… So while some ids are memory repressed about the clone center times, people like Elizabeth and Charles get the kid killed in some way… And then say at the cloning center, “look what happened to him”. Then the kids don’t say anything out of fear, sometimes they show the kids murder on video to scare the kids there into compliance.

Sometimes someone will say they don’t want to participate or doesn’t want their daughter or son messed with and they want out,… Others agree,… They will start to degrade the ringleaders life in any way possible to discourage others from talking that way… Bring him back for private mental manipulation therapy as clones… Weasel into his and his wife’s life in any way possible, get them fired, Impersonate them as clones to the rest of their family members and turn them against them in dramatic ways. Get them fired from their jobs, and privately will continue to bring the kid there and mess that kid up bad, causing the kid to act erratic in real body and not know why (memory suppressed about clone time) Give them childrens aid trouble if possible, anything and everything, and they videotape what they do,… And show others there, look this guy wanted out…. Then Elizabeth says in an official voice, we are worse than the Italian mafia and you don’t leave the Italian mafia… Its the goofiest thing. But every once in a while they feel the need to make a new example of someone… When people talk about it they get killed or rendered mentally disabled remotely… I’m amazed I’m still alive actually.

They make people see hologram like images as clones… Using mk ultra visual effects, same as inception movie basically… Most of the time the people think they’re just dreaming or think they were original body when they saw it, didn’t even know they were clones,… they play a lot of tricks on peoples minds… They tell some people that the cloning center is the astral plane, 5th dimension Nirvana plane Shang ri la, lotsa different stuff, a lot don’t even know theyre IN a clone, they think theyre in another dimension and in real body… Or time stutter or singularity lol, they tell different people different stuff.

Illuminati = league of extraordinary child molesters… So much happening at the cloning center now and things said it would be a long time relating it all… bunch of people want to leave, but don’t want to lose their jobs or be mentally manipulated for the insult of leaving… only people that want to keep the place going are old ugly fat people, the mentally handicapped massively inbred people and the scuzziest perverts… most want out… old rich people threatening and scaring people there into compliance… it is quite the scene.

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