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Death Thoughts can be from Alien or Military Abduction

Sometimes you hear your own inner voice telling you negative ideas or thoughts. But could it be, that these ideas and negative thought patterns are not your own? They have been inserted in your brain and activated if you don’t cooperate with the powers that be?

Death Thoughts & Early Death can be from
Booby Traps inserted during
Alien or Military Abduction

Many researchers of UFOs and other alternative topics have died early deaths. We believe that many of these deaths were caused by the activation of what we call “Booby Traps”. These are a special kind of Wernicke’s command, which were deliberately given to the person during an abduction.

If you have any suspicion that you, or the person you are working on, has been affected by mind control or alien or military abduction, (or that you may have metaphysical abilities, which greatly increases the chances of being abducted), then you need to have someone check for and remove Booby Traps before you do anything.

First, the person who does the testing muscle tests if there are any booby traps to be removed. If you do not know how to do this accurately, or how to do the pretests which are essential to do to get accurate answers, please learn from my Perfect Health with Kinesiology & Muscle Testing DVD Training system. The course also teaches how to identify and remove Booby Traps and other Wernicke’s commands.

Then, muscle test how many of each kind of booby trap there are to be removed.

Booby traps fall into three categories:

1) Commands to die if the person remembers. Some examples that I have found on people are:

“Die if you remember this.” Most people who have booby traps have this one. Note: the word “this” is usually, but not always, in the sentence, to keep it specific.

“Kill yourself if you remember this.” Most people who have booby traps have this command also.

“You’ll be dead if you remember.”

“You will not live if you remember.”

“Your heart will stop if you remember.”

“Have heart failure if you remember this.”

“Have a heart attack if you remember this.”

“Have cardiac arrest if you remember this.”

“Die of heart failure if you remember this.”

“Have a heart embolism if you remember this.”

“Your heart will stop if you remember this.”

“Don’t remember this or your heart will stop.”

“Your heart stops beating if you remember this.”

“Have kidney failure if you remember this.”

“Your kidneys die if you remember this.”

“Your liver will stop functioning if you remember this.”

“Your spleen ruptures if you remember this.”

“Have a stroke if you remember this.”

“You will have a stroke if you remember.”

“Have an accident if you remember this.”

“Have a brain hemorrhage if you remember this”.

“Have cerebral hemorrhage if you remember this.”

“Bleed if you remember this.”

“God will not love you if you remember this.”

“You will go to Hell if you remember this.”

“This will happen if you remember this.” (shows person a video of horrible things)

“You’re dead if you remember this.”

“We’ll kill you if you remember this.”

“You’ll go insane if you remember this.”

“Stop breathing if you remember this.”

“Die in pain if you remember this.”

“Drop dead if you remember this.”

“You’ll suffocate if you remember this.”

“Have brain cancer if you remember this.”

“Have lung cancer if you remember this.”

“We are going to disembowel you if you remember what we’ve done.”

“We’re going to kill you if you don’t obey us.”

“Expire if you don’t follow your programming.”

“We will disintegrate you if you don’t follow your programming.”

“Meet death if you remember this.”

“You will die if you think about this.”

“Your brain will be damaged if you remember.”

“Your mind will be erased if you remember.”

“You’ll lose your mind if you remember.”

“Your mind will not function if you remember this.”

“You won’t know anything if you remember this.”

“You’ll go insane if you remember.”

“No one can stand you if you remember this.”

“You’ll look crazy if you remember this.”

“You’ll feel bad if you remember this.”

“You won’t do anything right if you remember this.”

“Be stupid if you remember this.”

“Cause trouble if you remember this.”

“Your nervous system will shut down if you remember.”

“Disloyalty means death.”

“There is pain for disobedience.”

“You’ll forget this or die.”

“Forget this or die horribly.”

“Remembering this brings pain.”

“You will die if you recall this.”

“Thinking of us gives you a headache.”

“Remembering this occludes blood flow to the brain.”

“Remembering this releases blood clots to the brain.”

“You hypothalamus will shatter if you remember this.”

“You will be destroyed if you remember this.”

“Everything will be impossible for you if you remember this.”

2) Commands to kill the person who helps them to remember (that is, the person doing the muscle testing). Examples that have been found are:

“Kill the person who helps you to remember this.”

“Kill the person who deprograms you.”

“You’ll kill anyone who helps you to tear down your programming.”

“Zap anyone who helps you.”

“Destroy the reputation of anyone who helps you deprogram”.

3) Commands that relate to endangering others. The third category may not hurt anyone, but it could stop you from getting yourself free and cleaned up. Examples I have found on another are:

“Kill your daughter if you remember this.”

“Kill (name of son/daughter) if you remember this.”

“Kill your son/daughter if you remember this.”

“Kill your mother if you remember this.”

“Your family will die if you remember this.”

“You put your family in danger if you tell anyone about this.”

“We will hurt your son/daughter if you remember this.”

“(Name of son/daughter) will die if you remember this.”

“You’re on your own if you remember this.”

“You lose everything you love if you remember this.”

Do not underestimate the power of booby traps.

A woman healer was murdered by one of her male clients in Melbourne Australia around 2000. I believe that it is possible and even likely that the man was a victim of mind control and the healer inadvertently removed the blocks to his memories, without first removing any booby traps.

I once worked on a woman who had many health problems (eg intense stomach pain) as the result of reptilian abduction. I removed ten wernicke’s commands to stop her from remembering. After two sessions her health problems went away. But, I forgot to look for any booby traps (as this was in the early days of my research). A few weeks later she went to a doctor, thinking she had a minor stroke, plus she started ‘talking funny’ – it was like her brain wasn’t working correctly. I then tested and found five booby traps including “Have a stroke if you remember this” and “Have an accident if you remember this”. She was fine after that.

After you have removed booby traps, look for other wernicke’s commands that were deliberately given to the person, such as those that:

Stop them doing any kind of work which will help them to get free, such as kinesiology or clearing.

Interfere with them remembering what was done to them and what they did during that time.

Interfere with wealth and money.

Interfere with their life purpose (eg to stop them doing the thing they are most gifted at).

Interfere with relationships.

Make them obey the controllers.

Stop them using their abilities.

Stop them connecting with God.

Interfere with a special topic that is specific for the particular person you are working with.

Accurate muscle testing and the Wernicke’s Commands are easy to learn, if you are taught correctly. They are essential for anyone who is sensitive, or has or may have any kind of metaphysical abilities, or has ever had any unreasonable amounts of rage or other strange behavior, as these are the ones most likely to have been abducted. Learn this now with Perfect Health with Kinesiology & Muscle Testing.


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The Legacy of Barbara Bartholic

Interesting article about Alien Abduction and MILAB Research pioneer Barbara Bartholic:

By James Bartley

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Alien Abduction Research lost a true pioneer with the passing of Barbara Bartholic. Although Barbara’s work has gone largely unheralded (except amongst the many people she helped) her legacy lives on in the form of cutting edge research amongst her protégés and an understanding amongst serious researchers of the primary role played by the Reptilians in alien abductions. Barbara laid the groundwork for a deeper understanding of the Reptilian Overlordship. Indeed Barbara coined the phrase “Reptilian Overlordship.” Barbara delved deeper than most abduction researchers. She didn’t turn away from confronting or unsettling information. I am proud to say that I was a protégé of Barbara Bartholic. I worked closely with Barbara for many years and was able to gain a better understanding of my own alien abduction experiences through my close relationship with Barbara. In so doing I was able to help other abductees who sought me out in order to gain a better understanding of their own experiences. I am but one of countless people who have greatly benefited from Barbara’s sage advice and counsel. The first and foremost of Barbara’s protégés was the late great Dr. Karla “Kandy” Turner. Barbara Bartholic and Kandy Turner formed the greatest partnership in UFO Research history. Barbara worked behind the scenes and Kandy brought the findings of Barbara to the attention of the UFO Research Community. Kandy became an outstanding alien abduction researcher in her own right. Kandy and her family were alien abductees who had obtained help from Barbara.

Barbara quickly realized energetic harvesting was a key component of the alien abduction syndrome. Barbara was an empath and highly intuitive and laboured endlessly to document every facet of a person’s alien abduction experiences. She knew the negative aliens manipulated the energy centres and emotions of alien abductees in order to nourish and empower themselves at the expense of the abductees. This process is being played out on a macro society-wide scale. Alien abduction is an all out assault on the abducted humans: Physically, emotionally, energetically and spiritually.

The Drama of the Love Obsession

An aspect of the alien abduction syndrome that has affected countless alien abductees is what Barbara referred to as “The Drama of the Love Obsession.” My colleague, Eve Lorgen, herself a protégé of Barbara Bartholic refers to this syndrome as “The Alien Love Bite.” The Drama of the Love Obsession underscores much of the darker aspects of the alien abduction syndrome. The abductees are put through the extremes of emotion: Love, Hate, Jealousy, Resentment and a variety of other feelings are intensified by the ETs in order to siphon off the energies and emotions from the abductees. During this process, the ETs strive to program the behaviour of the abductee. The lives of abductees enmeshed in the Love Obsession are manipulated in such a way as to extract the maximum amount and variety of emotions. Unrequited Love is one such emotion. The abductee feels as if he or she is being emotionally rung out like a wet rag because he or she cannot consummate the love the abductee feels for the other targeted person. Sometimes this all-consuming feeling of love is not reciprocated by the other person. It is not unusual for the two abductees undergoing this experience to be separated by hundreds or thousands of miles thus complicating their situation. Oftentimes the abductees going through this are left in a state of emotional and physical exhaustion and despair. These feelings are intensified due to the psychic and at times telepathic bond between the two targeted partners. They feel one another’s emotions and intuit one another’s thoughts. Astral Sex between the two abductees is often reported. From an emotional and energetic standpoint, astral sex tends to enmesh the two targeted partners even more than physical sex. This is especially the case if the two partners are separated by a distance or if they are already in a committed relationship. The residual feelings and emotions after astral sex will be amplified as soon as the targeted partners resume communications either by telephone, cell phone texting, emails or in chat rooms. All of the latter forms of communication are energetic conduits.

In this state, the abductees are particularly susceptible to spiritual warfare attacks. It is axiomatic amongst alien abduction researchers that “the ETs are studying human emotions” but what exactly does this mean in practice? In her research, Barbara always emphasized the importance of understanding how alien abductions impact the people involved.

The Breed out the Love Program

Barbara learned abductees, sometimes mere children are manipulated to feel the extremes of emotions. This goes far beyond the guilt the ETs impose upon abductees such as manipulating them into believing they have triggered a thermonuclear war in the dreamscape and are responsible for the deaths of countless humans and other life forms. After one of these dreamscape manipulations an abductee can wake up sobbing into the pillow. This is bad enough. What amounts to gladiatorial contest between humans including children will be staged by the ETs. The unwilling participants are mind controlled to feel extreme rage towards their fellow abductee and are pitted against one another in these scenarios. Barbara worked with teenagers who described this process. Children and teenagers are basically abused by the ETs in order to engender feelings of anger, fear, pain and rage within them.

Barbara referred to this form of Behaviour Modification as the “Breed out the Love” program of the negative ETs. Is there any doubting that at least some children today exhibit aberrant and at times pathological tendencies? Bullying is at an all-time high. Combined with the dreadful habit of psychiatrists prescribing anti-depressants and anti-psychotics and the baneful effects of violent video games and movies, a significant percentage of children are primed to be violent sociopaths and psychopaths. Some children, due to a preponderance of reptilian or Draco DNA are particularly vulnerable to this type of programming.

The Crystal Meth/Crank/Ecstasy Connection

Barbara pioneered research into the Crystal Meth Connection. “Crank” is a derivative of crystal meth and is quite common in many parts of America. Through my own research, I’ve found that Ecstasy is a key component of the reptilian behaviour modification program. Crystal meth and Ecstasy use can eventually lead to the process known as “hosting” wherein a human abductee is partially or completely taken up as a host by one or more negative entities. Crystal Meth has a “sympathetic resonance” with a variety of negative entities, including but not limited to reptilians, snake entities, demons and some of the Greys. In her personal dealings with abductees, some of whom were crystal meth users, negative entities would literally take over the abductee and say menacing things to Barbara. Barbara has sometimes observed the abductee’s face or eyes morph or “shapeshift” during these episodes. A variation of the Crystal Meth Agenda is the aforementioned Ecstasy “Rave” agenda. In a future treatise I will elaborate on the dynamics of the Rave agenda. Suffice it to say for now that Ecstasy lowers the frequency of users and long term use leads to lower back pain which becomes a doorway for negative entities to enter first through the auric field and then into the body. In conjunction with the type of music being played, the Ecstasy removes the inhibitions of the users. This results in a variety of different entities such as greys, reptilians and snake entities taking up ravers as hosts. The location of the raves becomes an anchor in this reality for these negative entities. I must point out that Pharmaceutical Drugs also play a role in the reptilian-archontic agenda. Certain pharmaceuticals lower the bio-energetic frequency of the user and also impair cognitive function. These two “side effects” alone will open gateways for negative entities to manipulate and in many cases assume control of a human.

Underground Processing Plants

The first time I heard about the Underground Processing Plants was at the historic International UFO Congress in the Showboat in Las Vegas Nevada in 1993. I attended a lecture by Dr. Karla Turner. During this lecture “Kandy” discussed a number of findings developed by herself and Barbara Bartholic. The most unsettling information concerned the testimony of numerous abductees who described being in an underground facility controlled by ETs, usually Greys and Reptilians. Abductees would be forced to dismember human body parts with meat cleavers from corpses that were coming down a conveyor belt. The abductees were horrified at what they and others were forced to do. They were often supervised by the Greys. Kandy described how the abductees observed in these facilities were absolutely disconsolate and terrified of the implications of what they were involved in. Human body parts were heaped in huge piles. This information paralleled some of the information brought out of Dulce by Thomas Costello, the Rand Security Specialist who had escaped “Section D” (Dulce Underground Base in Northern New Mexico) and became a fugitive. Kandy was always quick to point out that it was an open question whether the “processing plants” were real or if they were a Virtual Reality Scenario (VRS) imposed upon the abductees by the aliens. If the latter were true, then what was the ultimate purpose behind the VRS of the “processing plants?” Later after I became a close associate of Barbara’s she described to me her work in “UFO Invasion Areas.” UFO Invasion Areas were places where literally hundreds of people, sometimes the occupants of entire blocks of residences, were taken in mass abductions.

In one particular UFO Invasion area, the abductees were often taken to an underground reptilian base. Within this base, abductees witnessed humans held in captivity as well as the aforementioned “processing facilities.” Many of the abductees who observed the captive humans in the underground reptilian bases believed the humans were a food source for the reptilians.

Part of Barbara’s work in this UFO Invasion Area involved infiltrating a commune run by a well known “Spiritual Guru” who channeled a “benevolent” spiritual being. All the members of this commune had to give up all of their worldly possessions in order to join. Barbara stressed that the members of this commune were by and large, affluent people such as attorneys, doctors, educators, business owners and the like. Many of these people in the commune were also being abducted by the reptilians and taken underground. Barbara believed that this surface level Spiritual Guru Operation was actually a “front” for what the reptilians were doing underground. On one occasion, Barbara sat in the audience as the Guru instructed the members to put on blindfolds and sit quietly in the audience as this guru walked up and down the aisles. At one point, Barbara pulled up her blindfold and tilted her head back and noticed this guru walking down a nearby aisle scrutinizing each and every member of her commune as she passed. To Barbara’s astonishment the “Guru” had glowing red eyes! Barbara quickly pulled the blindfold back on and sat bolt upright. She heard the Guru walk right by her. Later the Guru discovered that Barbara had infiltrated her group. Moreover, this Guru learned Barbara had performed hypnotic regressions on a number of people in her group and had thoroughly debriefed them once out of regression. This Guru sent thugs after Barbara to intimidate her and demanded that Barbara turn over ALL the videotapes of the hypnotic regressions otherwise Barbara “would never make it onto the plane and go back to Tulsa.” Barbara described these thugs as coming right out of the movie “Deliverance” with Burt Reynolds. Barbara was forced to hand over many hours worth of VHS tapes of abductees in and out of regression. She held her hands about three feet apart to indicate the number of video tapes she was forced to hand over in order to get on the plane and return safely to Tulsa, Oklahoma. Barbara managed to save ONE videotape from her trip to this “UFO Invasion Area” and she allowed me to watch it. The information contained therein, straight from the mouths of the abductees she worked with, was unsettling to say the least.

The Reptilian Cattle Cars – Fake Rapture?

A number of the abductees Barbara worked with described being shown by the reptilians’ holographic and or downloaded mental imagery which showed huge space ships landing, reptilian warriors alighting from the craft and thousands of humans in a trance state being herded onboard the craft. Once all the people were loaded onboard the craft, the craft lifted up off the ground and flew away. These craft were described euphemistically as “cattle cars” by some of the abductees who went through the virtual reality experience. One method the reptilians use to show such images is to produce a holographic screen in the living room or bedroom of the abductee. The abductee observes the imagery in the screen and then seems to be pulled into the scene and feels as if they are present at the scene which suddenly becomes three dimensional. They can feel the ground beneath their feet and can touch objects which seem absolutely real. The scenery could be of a variety of things including subterranean cave complexes or some other virtual reality scenario environment.

The Cattle Car scenario was described to Barbara and Kandy by numerous alien abductees from different parts of America who did not know one another. One has to wonder: Could this be a Fake Rapture scenario which the reptilians may one day employ? The Rapture theme is a relatively new concept in Christianity. Could the reptilians use a Fake Rapture scenario in order to abduct thousands if not millions of people prior to some surface level cataclysm or series of cataclysms? This is all speculative of course but if the reptilians do not intend to pull off a “Fake Rapture Scenario” why have they shown this scenario to so many different abductees? What purpose does it serve? As stated above, aliens already indulge in “UFO Invasions” throughout the surface of the planet. If this scenario plays out, where would the reptilians take all these people? Would they take them underground or would they take them off world?

Heaven’s Gate

After the alleged mass suicide of the Heaven’s Gate Cult in an affluent suburb of North County San Diego California, many UFO Researchers and Celebrity Abductees began grandstanding on television news programs. The UFO researchers and Celebrity Abductees expressed misgivings and whined about how groups such as Heaven’s Gate “discredited” the UFO Community. They lamented the fact that Heaven’s Gate was even associated with the subject of UFOs. It is still an open question whether the Heaven’s Gate members committed suicide en masse or were “suicided.” The news programs that interviewed the mostly mainstream UFO researchers and celebrity abductees should have interviewed Barbara Bartholic because Barbara had spent two months with the Heaven’s Gate group before they were called by that name.

“Bo” and “Peep” (Marshall Applewhite and Bonnie Nettles) allowed Barbara unrestricted access to themselves and the Heaven’s Gate group for two months. Barbara realized that the members of this cult were extraordinarily intelligent people. Some of them were world class computer scientists and mathematicians. Barbara also realized that “Bo” was a singularly strange individual who had some sort of alien intelligence working through him. Barbara observed how Bo seemed to have the ability to conjure small tornados. Barbara witnesses a lot of unusual phenomena in and around the person of Bo. Bo seemed to have the ability to read another person’s Mind. Barbara experienced this herself. Bo seemed to anticipate what Barbara and others would say and oftentimes would give answers to questions before the questions were asked.

This then is the individual whom “serious” UFO researchers dismissed as a crackpot and attention seeker. In the exact same way that “Contactees” were dismissed by “serious researchers” in the past, today’s crop of “serious” researchers likewise dismissed out of hand the possibility that the Heaven’s Gate Cult and it’s leader Marshall Applewhite a.k.a. “Bo” could have been under the control of a non-human intelligence. Indeed that thought NEVER occurred to them. As a postscript to the Heaven’s Gate story I will relate what the second director of the San Diego UFO Society, Rob Baldwin told me: Rob was told by a neighbor of the Heaven’s Gate Cult (who wished to remain anonymous) that the day after the cult committed suicide (or was suicided), in the early morning hours, a Flying Saucer hovered over the Heaven’s Gate estate and sent a blue beam of light down into the house.

The Cosmic Combat Medic

Many of the alien abductees Barbara worked with have been able to integrate these experiences into their lives. They are able to lead by most standards, a “normal life.” This is due to the fact that Barbara, both in and out of regression, was able to heal and nurture these people. If an abductee had a particularly frightening and painful experience, a short discussion with Barbara over the phone would suffice in most cases to bring the abductee back to an even keel. It is not for nothing that Barbara was known as “Mother Abigail” amongst some abductees and milabs. Mother Abigail was the character in the Stephen King saga “The Stand.” Barbara led a multi-faceted life: She was an ordained minister that presided over the wedding ceremonies of Bikers. She was a former runway model. She and her husband Bob were both highly regarded artists who had been written about in local newspapers. Barbara had her own television program devoted to Art. Barbara and Bob owned an art gallery.

When Barbara gave one of her infrequent lectures, she played videos of some of the abductees she worked with. She allowed the abductees to relate their own story in their own way. Barbara didn’t guide or coach the abductees she worked with in any way. This was a very powerful technique. The audience heard accounts of alien abductions unfiltered and undiluted, straight from the people who had actually undergone the experiences. Unlike many of the “big name” abduction researchers who systematically censor the accounts of the abductees they work with especially in regards to reptilian abductions and encounters with the military, Barbara allowed the abductees to come to their own conclusions about their experiences. Barbara had a wonderful sense of humour. She described herself as “The Lucy Ricardo of Abduction Researchers.” Barbara’s mannerisms and idiosyncrasies is part of the lore amongst people who knew her well. “Barbie” would give a shriek of delight the moment she recognized your voice on the phone. When an abductee was relating an experience or a “dream” to Barbara, they knew that when Barbara gasped, the abductee just said something of extreme significance. Barbara used to hire a private plane and would fly over suspected cattle mutilation sites. She spoke with ranchers and farmers whose animals had been mutilated. At one time Barbara was the research assistant of noted UFO researcher Jacques Vallee.

I remember when Barbara and I were fellow speakers at a UFO Conference in Memphis Tennesee. I was late arriving at the lecture hall. The moment I arrived Barbara had just stepped out of the lecture hall and into the foyer. She held both hands over her heart centre and said to me. “She’s filling the whole auditorium with reptilian energy!” The “she” in this instance was a well known “channeller” of a discarnate entity that had nothing but contempt for the human race. I replied “I want to see! I want to see!” So we grasped one another’s elbow and entered the lecture hall together. The auditorium was indeed filled with reptilian energy.

You could feel the icky tingly energy from the top row. We made our way side by side down the aisle until we found a pair of seats in the front row. Still holding each other’s arms, we sat and prepared ourselves for the reptilian propaganda onslaught that was sure to come. The both of us consciously focused on erecting psychic barriers to protect ourselves. Whenever the channeller mentioned something that was blatantly propagandistic in nature, Barbara would turn her head to me with her eyes wide open and a grim smile set on her jaw line. Our eyes would lock momentarily and then we would both turn to face the channeller on the stage. At times Barbara would grip my arm tighter when a wave of negative energy would pass over us. It was amazing the amount of negative reptilian energy this one channeller was emitting. I shudder to think the effect this negative energy had on unsuspecting members of the audience. Even though it was not the first time I was exposed to high intensity reptilian energy from a speaker at a UFO Conference, it was the first time I felt it with Barbie by my side. I can say that it was reassuring to have her next to me. Barbara was subsequently attacked at that conference by negative entities during her sleep in her bedroom. She showed me a huge bluish-purple bruise on her solar plexus and her side that had materialized overnight. Despite the severity of the bruising, Barbara felt no discomfort in the discolored area. The late Vance Davis, an old friend of mine and another speaker at that conference, saw the huge bruise on Barbara’s side and solar plexus area.

Barbara Bartholic was a true spiritual warrior. Barbara had few equals and no superiors in the field of alien abduction research. Space prevents me from going into detail about all of the spiritual warfare Barbara and her family had endured as a result of her work. Barbara always felt she endangered her family by delving into these matters. Barbara was often quoted as saying she has spent the last thirty years “warring with the reptilian aliens.” Despite it all, Barbara never lost her sense of humour or her deep and abiding love for humanity and especially the abductees she worked with. One more story about Barbara’s special status will suffice to give the reader an idea of the lengths the reptilians would go to undermine Barbara and her family: Barbara and her husband Bob were restoring a yacht. It was a labour of love and they had spent a lot of time and money working on this yacht to make it both seaworthy and first class as far as creature comforts is concerned. One day while Barbara and her husband were in town, three flying saucers hovered over this yacht and set in on fire. This was witnessed by some of her neighbors. This happened in broad daylight. Barbara and her husband Bob were heartbroken to say the least. This is just one of numerous examples of direct alien interference in the lives of Barbara and her family.

Most of all I will remember Barbara’s loving nature, compassion, empathy, intuitive ability and sense of humour. She helped me overcome many challenges. She provided me with wise and timely counsel and always encouraged me in my own research efforts. Barbara established a standard of excellence for alien abduction research. Her passing was a grievous blow to those of us who knew her and loved her. Barbara Bartholic has left a legacy in the form of dedicated hard-working protégés who continue to honour her memory and who continue to pass on the knowledge Barbara had spent over thirty years compiling. Barbara’s protégés continue to break new ground in alien abduction research.


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A Primer on Milab Abductions

Just some more information about milab abductions. I think, that major part of the so called abductions are made by military and ordinary people. It’s a good way to keep people silent about the experiments, that they want to conduct with human victims. Fear is the key to keep things silent. People won’t speak if they think that aliens have abducted them and that’s how the secret is kept hidden.

By James Bartley

Many people are coming to the grim realization that they have endured alien abduction experiencesA significant percentage of alien abductees have learned that they are the object of extreme interest by deep black elements of the military intelligence community.  This interest goes beyond simple monitoring, surveillance and psychological warfare operations (Psyops).  Abductees are being used by the military in a variety of operational roles including but not limited to astral operators, psychic spies, covert operatives, technicians, and scientists.  Abductees who have been used by the military in this fashion are known as “Milabs” which stands for “Military Abductees.”  Milabs often describe being taken to underground facilities.  Milabs as well as Military-Aerospace Insiders have witnessed non-human life forms and human military and medical personnel working together in underground and above ground installations.

The purpose of this treatise is to fill a large gap in alien abduction studies.  Most of the “big name” researchers refuse to delve into issues such as the existence and primary role in alien abductions played by the Reptilians.  The reptilians are the primary abducting force.  The reptilians use “proxies” such as certain factions of the Grey aliens, Nordics, Insectoids and other ETs to do their bidding.  The reptilians are also deeply involved in Milab Operations.

As a Student of History and a Historian myself, I am often confounded by the fragmentary historical record about a wide variety of subjects, not only from the distant past but from more recent times.  America’s collective ignorance about our own History let alone recent events is due in large part to the malign influence of an Educational System funded by the Tax Exempt Foundations, Corporations and the Federal Government.  Added to that is the all pervasive influence of the Corporate Media and the end result is a population completely ignorant about even the most basic facts of life.  A cogent argument can be made that Alien Abductions and Military Abductions are a daily fact of life for countless people.  This treatise will provide Milabs with information which will help them to adjust to this shattering reality.


How Did They Become Milabs? 

Milabs are first and foremost legitimate alien abductees.  Milabs have genetic markers which indicate DNA of non-human origin.  I have spoken to a number of abductees who served in the military and during their time in the Armed Forces, these abductees were used in Milab and Mind Control operations.  It was as if Military Intelligence, or a deep black element thereof, knew precisely who within the ranks were alien abductees.

Milabs who have served in the military describe being used in a variety of Mind Control operations some of them involving extremely high technology, very often in underground installations.  Many report being injected with hypnotic drugs and having narco-hypnosis and memory erasure procedures performed upon them.  This is done to ensure the milab forgets what he has seen or heard during these experiences.  Post hypnotic commands and programming are instilled into compartmented sections of the milab’s mind.

Oftentimes Active Duty Milabs are treated by military psychologist during and even after their time in the military. Abductees in all branches of the service have reported being mind controlled during their stints in the military.  Many former members of the military continue to be used in milab operations long after their military career has ended.

Civilian milabs can be found in all walks of life.  Some have obvious connections to the military-industrial complex whilst others have no connection whatsoever.  The obvious question most milabs ask themselves is, “how did the military find out about me?”  Again, it is due to the unique genetic markers contained in the milabs DNA.  The military, being a branch of the federal government, has access to any and all medical records.  Even for civilians, there is ample opportunity for the powers that be to obtain DNA samples of the general population.  Other factors which must be considered are the sensors and radar systems of the military which would allow milab controllers to know when alien spacecraft have passed close to human habitations.  Subsequent investigation would determine if any abductees lived in the neighborhoods visited by the spaceship.  Another piece of the puzzle is the testimony of people like Dan Sherman.

Dan Sherman served in a “grey” branch of the Air Force Security Service, the latter being the Air Force arm of the National Security Agency.  Sherman says he was trained as an “Intuitive Communicator” by his superiors to establish and maintain communications with Extraterrestrials.  Sherman concluded that the data being given from the ETs to his human controllers concerned alien abductees.  I would go further:  Based on the Laws of Chance and Statistical Probability at least some of the abductees in this program must be milabs.  If elements of the deep black military are being given information about human beings used in ET abduction operations, then there must be some kind of ongoing cooperation between ETs and the military involving human beings.

Dan Sherman is not the only former insider to claim knowledge of an ongoing interaction between deep black elements of the Military-Aerospace community and non-human beings.  Indeed there have been numerous accounts of interactions between deep black elements of the Military-Aerospace-Medical community with non-human beings.  Thanks to the gatekeepers in the UFO Community, the fact of alien-human interaction has been dismissed, marginalized and reduced to the level of absurdity.

What Are Milabs Used For?

Throughout history military regimes have utilized the special skills of allied or subject peoples to further their geopolitical ends.  Conquered peoples have been impressed into armies to fight and die for their masters.  Unique skills of people in a particular region are exploited by their masters.  Slingers, Archers, Cavalrymen, infantrymen, blacksmiths, cobblers, and carpenters have all been used by conquerors to further a particular geopolitical goal or agenda.  I would argue that since the creation of the Federal Reserve and the resulting Debt based fiat currency system, this formerly great Republic is a conquered country in which each citizen is expected to make an annual tribute to the International Banking Cartel in the form of taxes.  Milabs just happen to be a 21st Century version of the aforementioned slaves.  Make no mistake about it:  For all intents and purposes, milabs are slaves during these experiences, no matter how an individual milab chooses to interpret his or her experiences.  Moreover, the milab controllers exhibit an extraordinary degree of control over the milab in areas such as interpersonal relationships, employment, and choice of residence, to name just three.

The training and tasking of milabs seems to be tailored to their particular attributes, personal strengths and weaknesses.  There are certain types of training, indoctrination and medical procedures which are common to virtually all milabs.  Many milabs have described the mass vaccination scenarios.  They have described walking in and out of large unisex bathrooms.  Milabs are variously clad in night clothes, ordinary civilian clothes or hospital smocks.  During training or actual physical operations (as opposed to astral ops) milabs have worn military dress uniforms, Battle Dress Utilities (BDUs), camouflage uniforms, black or dark blue “SWAT” type outfits and gray sweat shirts and matching gray pants.  Nurses and Doctors are a frequent sight at installations where milabs are taken.  The setting can appear like any other medical facility and the medical staff can behave exactly as a normal medical staff would, except for the lack of information given to the “patient.”  Some milabs recall being taken to a well known above ground medical facility.  Some of the medical facilities where milabs have been taken include Letterman Army Hospital in San Francisco, Oak Knoll Naval Hospital in Oakland California, and Balboa Naval Medical Center in San Diego California just to name a few.          

The training and ops are divided thusly:  Training scenarios and ops conducted whilst the milab is in the physical body and training and ops conducted whilst the milab is in an Out of Body State.  Remote viewing ops conducted by milabs are usually done in the physical state.  Physical training usually involves running, swimming, and weapons training.  Survival training is emphasized.  Individually and in groups, milabs are taught how to forage for food and water and to organize foraging parties.  Milabs are sometimes encouraged by their controllers to learn First Aid skills and to even become First Responders such as Emergency Medical Technicians and Firefighters.

Milabs can be used as couriers, covert operatives, technicians, and scientists.  As couriers the milab can operate singly or with another milab.  Sometimes the milab works under the supervision of a controller.  The training is given added urgency by the milab being placed in virtual reality scenarios involving nuclear holocaust, civil unrest, a pandemic, civil unrest, martial law involving foreign troops.  The military has the capability of creating “stage managed dreams.”  These are very vivid virtual reality scenarios.  The controllers stress guile, resourcefulness and an unwillingness to surrender to the circumstances.

Many milabs have been used in Astral Ops.  The Astral operators are trained to spy, act as a forward observer for air strikes, search for people or objects of intelligence value, and bring harm to others. As such milabs are “multi-task platforms.” The military possess the technology to trigger an out of body experience within milabs.  The milab controller talks to the milab and directs him or her to focus on particular targets during an astral op.  The milab can be sitting on a reclined chair.  The milab controller can talk in a normal tone of voice to the milab.  Some milabs have described being on an astral op and hearing the voice of the milab controller in their mind.  Some milab controllers themselves are psychic.  The possibility exist that the military employs technology which can “boost” the thoughts of the milab controller so the milab can hear the commands, wherever the astral operator may be.

Some Milab Controllers  Are Shapeshifters

Milab controllers vary in appearance and roles.  Some of them are obviously military special operations personnel whose function is to train the milabs in survival skills and covert operations techniques.  Other milab controllers train milabs in astral ops and in remote viewing.  There have been numerous reports of military controllers or military personnel in general “shapeshifting” into reptilians within the confines of an underground base or secure locations in above ground bases. Milabs who have witnessed military personnel shapeshifting usually expressed no shock or surprise at these transformations suggesting that the percipient may have been in an altered state of mind or alter personality.  I cannot express myself strongly enough about this facet of the milab experience:  The reptilians are deeply involved in milab operations and hence are involved in the most secretive projects and operations on Earth.

Milabs are trained to be resourceful.  Psychological tests are conducted on milabs to determine their decision making process under duress.  Scenarios include compelling the milab to decide who to rescue from a fire:  A young boy or a young girl?  Should the milab rescue a human child or a human hybrid alien child?  The milab controllers have a very good idea which milabs can be counted upon to be assassins and cutthroat operatives.  Psychological profiles and genetic studies as well as background information about the upbringing of the milab will provide the milab controllers all the info they need to determine the suitability of a milab for one task or another.  In most cases, the military has been deeply involved in the life of the milab from childhood.

Some milabs, even in a mind controlled state, are not suitable for ops where harming or killing others is required.  Other milabs, even in full waking consciousness, would be happy to blast away at other people if they knew they would not get in trouble.  Some male milabs have a long history of domestic violence and frequently beat their spouses or girlfriends.  Most of these violent milabs are reptilian or drac (winged gargoyle species) human hybrids.  The milab controllers will use such individuals when remorseless brutality or other forms of mayhem are required. It is a sad fact that some male milabs are proud of the role they play advancing the reptilians’ New World Order agenda. If a particular milab is deemed unsuited for a particular task, then they will be retrained for other roles.

Mass milab settings have been described in which hundreds if not thousands of milabs can be seen walking around these underground installations.  Some of these installations were designed to simulate very large airport terminals, complete with long escalators and long terminal passages.

The True State of the Art

Thanks to the ceaseless efforts of the gatekeepers in the UFO Community (and its safe to say at this point that you can add Stanton Friedman to that ever growing list) people still think of UFO technology from the standpoint of archaic and obsolete human technology.  Stanton Friedman still crows about his time working on the NEPA Nuclear Powered Airplane project which was a complete boondoggle and a waste of time and resources.  Nevertheless, the NEPA Nuclear Airplane Project is the “Gift That Keeps On Giving” because till the end of time, Stanton Friedman will continue to brag about how knowledgeable he is about modern technology based on his involvement on the NEPA Nuclear Airplane Project which was a complete joke.

On the oxymoronically titled “History Channel” Friedman appeared on a segment of UFO Files known as “The Day After Roswell.”  Friedman along with the rest of the debunkers dismissed the late Lieutenant Colonel Philip Corso’s claims that Corso had helped seed alien technology into the commercial sector.  Corso stated in his book and in many interviews that he provided samples of alien technology obtained from the Roswell Crash Retrieval to a number of Research and Development centers around the United States.  The analysis of items led to the creation of night vision goggles, fiber optics and lasers to name just three.  Friedman and the other debunkers insisted that all technology present on Earth is the result of human ingenuity.  In other words there has never been any attempt to determine the full potential of all the alien technology recovered over the years, let alone exploit this technology by the Global Elite.

In the recent past a book was published entitled “An Introduction to Planetary Defense: A Study of Modern Warfare Applied to Extra-Terrestrial Invasion” written by Travis S. Taylor and Bob Boan along with R.C. Anding & T. Conley Powell. This motley crew of writers routinely refers to Ufologists and UFO Whistleblowers as “UFO Conspiracy Theorists.”  Yet they have the audacity to refer to the late and unlamented CIA debunker Karl Pflock as a “UFO Researcher.”  In order to drive home the point that the Earth needs to prepare itself against an alien invasion, they frequently cite Hollywood films such as Independence Day and The War Of The Worlds as examples of what will happen if the Earth is caught by surprise.

Nowhere in this book are there references to the well documented intrusions of UFOs over Strategic Air Command bases which have resulted in the deactivation of Nuclear Missile Launch Control Facilities and tampering of the nuclear warheads themselves by low flying UFOs.

To give but one example of the seriousness of these events consider the testimony of former Air Force Lieutenant Robert Salas.  Between March 14th  and 16th 1967 at Malmstrom Air Force Base near Great Falls Montana, low flying UFOs described as brilliant reddish orange balls, hovered over two Nuclear Missile Launch Control Facilities (LCF) which resulted in up to twenty nuclear missiles suddenly going into “NO GO” status.  The Minuteman II missiles were divided equally between Echo Flight and Oscar Flight, each flight having its own missile LCF.  These twenty missiles silos were spread over a vast area of Montana

Technicians conducted an evaluation of the system and determined that for some inexplicable reason the Guidance and Control system malfunctioned.  The eyewitnesses included launch control facility personnel as well as members of the Sabotage Alert Teams.  Not exactly “UFO Conspiracy Theorists.” Veteran UFO investigator Raymond Fowler worked on the Minuteman II Planning Board at Sylvania, one of the contractors for that missile system.  Fowler is also a former member of the Air Force Security Service (now known as the Air Force Electronic Security Command), the Air Force subsidiary of the National Security Agency.  Fowler confirmed from his own sources that numerous incursions of low flying UFOs over Strategic Air Command missile bases did in fact occur during this time period.  Moreover communications within the LCF sites were disrupted during the UFO visitations.

Similar events occurred at Minot AFB in North Dakota in 1968 and along the northern tier of SAC missile bases in November of 1975.  The 1975 SAC incursions were well documented in such books as “Clear Intent” written by Lawrence Fawcett and Barry Greenwood.  Clear Intent was later re-published under the title The UFO Cover-up.

Sightings of UFOs above sensitive Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) facilities by highly trained personnel such as scientists, security personnel and air force pilots have been recorded since the late 1940s.  Sightings of UFOs over the AEC Hanford Facility in Washington State and the AEC Oak Ridge Facility are well documented.  The documents I refer to are documents pried from a variety of U.S. Agencies via the Freedom of Information Act.

One of the most frightening examples of UFOs manipulating the control systems of nuclear missile launch facilities occurred in the former Soviet Union.

According to Vladimir Plantonov, on October 14th 1982 a UFO hovered over a Soviet ICBM base for hours near the town of Belokoroviche, northwest of Kiev, Ukraine.  Many eyewitnesses reported that the craft was saucer shaped and was over nine hundred feet long.  Plantonov, a missile engineer stated to ABC News Correspondent David Ensor that the missiles suddenly went into pre-launch mode, something that is only supposed to happen after Moscow sends authorizing codes to initiate the launch sequence. The missiles didn’t launch but the occupants of the UFO certainly got their message across:  We control your weapons systems.  We can disable them or we can cause them to launch thus initiating a planetary nuclear holocaust.

It is important for the readers to understand that these are well documented cases of UFOs disrupting and manipulating the guidance and control systems for the most powerful weapons systems known to exist.  Why didn’t the authors of “An Introduction to Planetary Defense:  A Study of Modern Warfare Applied to Extraterrestrial Invasion” mention any of these cases?  Likewise why didn’t they write about the well documented and numerous cases of Jet Interceptors being scrambled after UFOs sometimes resulting in the loss of the planes and aircrew?  The writers of “An Introduction to Planetary Defense” have an agenda.  This is obvious from the fact that they dedicated the book to the people who lost their lives to the “terrorists” attacks of September 11th, 2001.  There have been scientific peer reviewed papers which prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that nano-thermite explosives as well as thermate cutting charges were used at the World Trade Center Twin Towers.  This is not open to debate no matter how uncomfortable it makes people feel and its obvious to me that a great many UFO Researchers want no part of 9/11 Truth, cowards and ignoramuses that they are.

So why are these authors who promote the 9/11 Lie writing about planetary defense against aliens now?  More to the point, why do they believe conventional and even “advanced” directed energy weapons will even stand a chance against UFOs and their occupants?  Pitting “modern” publicly known weapons systems against the known offensive capabilities of the aliens is worse than stupid.  This is very much like lining up a dozen Greek Hoplites in a phalanx formation and asking them to stop the advance of a  SS Panzer Corps.

This is an important question to ask because the issues I will soon bring up about Time Travel and Cloning would be dismissed as being ludicrous and beyond the pale by messiers Taylor, Boan, Anding and Powell and others like them. This is why I took the time to describe what UFOs had done to modern weapons systems in the past.  Once again we have these relative non-entities trying to create parameters around what is considered credible and non-credible information about UFOs.


The Cloning of Milabs

This leads me to the next salient point: The Cloning of Milabs is a fact.  I have spoken to many milabs who have described seeing clones of themselves. Sometimes the clones are younger, slimmer and more physically fit. Other times the clones look exactly as the milab does at the present time.  Milab clones have been seen in suspended animation.  Sometimes two or more clones are seen to be animated.  They have feelings and emotions and have expressed anguish over the things that are done to them.  One female milab I know saw two of her clones placed into a large plastic box and kept there.  Her two clones struggled desperately to get out of the box.  They were screaming and crying and the female milab was distraught over the treatment meted out to her clones.

Katherina Wilson described meeting two of her clones in an underground installation.  They told her they were being used as prostitutes by the military and scientific personnel and were absolutely miserable about their situation.

Cloned bodies are used for training purposes.  The deep black military has the means to transfer the consciousness of a sleeping milab into the body of a clone.  The clone will then be made to perform a variety of training scenarios and perhaps even find him or herself used in “real world” ops, either on this planet or elsewhere.  Confirmation of the use of clones for training purposes has been provided by other milabs.  It is quite common for milabs who are acquainted with one another and who live in widely separated places, to see each other in underground installations, training scenarios and actual ops.

If one milab is known to be overweight but appears to be slimmer and in better shape than his or her “real” body, than it is a certainty that a clone was used.  If the overweight milab has memories of the same training scenario or op that was described by the other milab, than we can infer that his or her consciousness was transferred into a cloned body for the duration of the event.  In this fashion a comprehensive amount of training and operational experience can be imbued into the subconscious or alter personalities of the milab without the attendant risk of injury or death to the real individual.  The milab may remember only fragments of the experiences in question but the total memories are maintained in the subconscious and the alter personalities, ready to be utilized and exploited by the milab controllers in the future.  Moreover, if the cloned milab was compelled to perpetrate some act that would be morally repugnant to the milab, the memories of such activities can be neatly compartmentalized via the mind control programming. Some milab memories may be state dependent, that is, certain memories may only be remembered by the clone or clones!

The use of clones may be directly related to the Time Travel ops that many milabs have described.  Again, milabs are legitimate alien abductees.  They are essentially a hybrid form of human being with enhanced metaphysical capabilities due to their alien DNA. Thus they are ideal candidates for Time Travel projects.  Keep in mind that the DNA of some milabs may contain genetic information from a number of different ET races, not just one.  The reptilians factor in the lives of a great many milabs, whether they realize it or not.  The reptilians are masters of frequency and resonance and are metaphysical operators par excellence.  It is this capability that the deep black military controllers seek to harness within certain milabs.


Time Travel Ops

The mission objectives of these Time Travel projects can vary greatly. Some milabs describe being sent on teams into a divergent parallel time line either in the past or the future.  The trips to the past in whatever time line often have as an objective the retrieval of alien technology.  These ops present their own unique circumstances and problems.  One Milab team leader told me he was never certain if the other team members emerging from an artificially created portal after him were the same team members he started out with.  It stands to reason that if time travel ops are being conducted in this timeline, it is quite likely that other milab teams in other timelines are conducting the same or similar ops.  This means that a milab who is a part of these time travel and timeline ops can never be sure what timeline he or she is in.  One milab I spoke to recalled coming back from Spain in the late 1930s during the Spanish Civil War.  Somehow the milab and a female milab accompanying him were detained by two foreign women from the present time period.  The two milabs were drugged and debriefed about a variety of subjects.  Eventually the two milabs were released or somehow freed from these two women and found themselves back in the current time period in a large underground installation simulated to look like a very large empty airport.

They were being escorted by military personnel dressed in apparel similar in appearance to the uniforms of commercial airline crews.  The two milabs were brought into what appeared to be an office.  The personnel handling them ran a hand held device over their bodies, apparently in search of new implants.  Both of the milabs remembered this experience, one more than the other due to the effects of the drugs.

It is possible that the Time Travel ops are used by the controllers to either gain an advantage against real or potential adversaries in the present time period and into the future.  Conversely Time Travel ops may be used to minimize damage wrought by other groups that exploit similar Time Travel technology.  We cannot forget the prime role that certain non-human races such as the reptilians play in this scenario. The reptilians or factions thereof are the controlling factor on this planet.  Based on my discussions with very knowledgeable milabs and abduction researchers such as my mentor Barbara Bartholic, there are human appearing beings that are commonly known as Pleidians.  Unlike what is commonly written about the Pleidians in the UFO Literature, there are factions of the Pleidians that are working to advance an agenda that is inimical to the interest of the Human Race at large.  Some of these Pleidian factions work in conjunction with  certain factions of the reptilians.  This is a very unpopular notion amongst many new agers and self described “contactees” but to suggest that all Pleidians are of necessity, “good” from our standpoint is patently absurd.  The Pleidians are major players in the field of Time Travel. A number of my colleagues whose research I find highly credible have also found a time travel component with the milabs they have interviewed.

It should be noted that the aforementioned Dan Sherman was told by the Greys he was in communications with that the Greys are indeed involved with time travel ops.  Sherman was told that the Greys “go around” time.  My colleagues and I are satisfied that the faction or factions of the Greys working with the deep black military also work for the reptilians.  Again, the controlling factor appears to be the reptilians.  Today we have exopolitics movements that do not address these facts.  Milabs are at the cutting edge of this developing situation.  Milabs should not be regarded with awe nor should they be regarded with trepidation.


Milab Females Should Not Consult “Fundies”

A disturbing trend has emerged wherein self described “Counselors” and “Researchers” of a distinctly Fundamentalist Christian outlook have taken it upon themselves to “help” milab and monarch women who are coming to grips with their often traumatic experiences.  At first the “Fundie” displays a lot of compassion and sympathy with the female milab or monarch.  This is the first stage.  The second stage consists of questioning her motives and the accuracy or validity of the experiences she has shared with him.  He becomes judgmental towards her even accusing her of fabricating these experiences just to gain attention.  The third stage features the Fundie telling the woman she is a sinner and if she would just stop sinning,  she would stop having these problems.  The Fundie counselor makes it clear that SINNING is the main problem in the woman’s life.  The reptilians, milab controllers, illuminatti operatives, electromagnetic beaming, and various and sundry forms of psyops and harassment have nothing to do with it.

If the woman makes the mistake of mentioning she has psychic abilities and that on occasion her milab controllers or the ETs force her to utilize this capability, the  Fundie will lambaste her for using “evil” and “satanic” powers that are the work of the devil.  Despite her protest that she really has no control over the situation, he will continue to berate her and abuse her.  We can see the progression quite clearly:  The Fundie starts out as someone wanting to help the female milab but eventually morphs into a psychologically abusive misogynist. In all likelihood, some of these Female Milab and Monarch abusing Fundies are mind controlled themselves.  They have a “Christian Front Alter” and are part of a control mechanism to further disempower and destabilize women in these projects, thus ensuring they remain under mind control.  The final step is the most pernicious:  The Fundie goes online and begins to impugn the character and integrity of the female milab or monarch who has come to him for help.  The female milab at this point feels psychologically abused and her trust has been violated. This is par for the course.  I have been given the names of a number of these controlling fundies.  They simply must be part of an effort to maintain control over these women and prevent them from obtaining the help they need.

I have never met a Fundie who knows even the basic rudiments of Milab and Monarch Ops.  If they do not even know the basic facts about these issues how can they be expected to be of any help to an actual milab or monarch? I mention Monarch females in this section because they are frequently the target of these misogynistic fundies.  Note these fundies never castigate and psychologically abuse male milabs or monarchs.  The reason for this is simple: They are likely to receive a black eye at the very least were they treat male milabs the way they treat female milabs.  Please don’t misunderstand me: I have very close friends that are Fundamentalist Christians.  Indeed some of them are female milabs and monarchs!  But I do take exception to this form of outrageous abuse these fundies mete out to women who have already endured so much suffering and trauma.  They need to be exposed and castigated themselves.

One final thing the public at large needs to be aware of is that the public is being inoculated to the reality of Milab Operations.  Note the proliferation of shows with a distinctly Milab theme. Now it has reached the level of absurdity with television shows such as “Chuck” which is a comedy, yes a comedy about a mind controlled citizen who works in a department store. His Intelligence Handler is a beautiful woman.  There is nothing remotely funny about milab operations to those having to endure them.  It is deadly serious.  It is not unusual for milabs to come down with serious illnesses such as brain cancer, kidney cancer and a variety of other serious illnesses.  I hope this paper will help the newly aware milab that they are not alone and that help is available.  At the very least a milab can find compassion and understanding from other milabs.  That being said, each milab should be judged based on their actions and how they treat others.  There are some milabs I want no part of.


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Interview with Maarit, a Scandinavian MILAB

Abductions could be orchestrated with military and there are lots of experiences out there where there is nothing about aliens, but mind control and drug usage. This is  a Maarit’s story…

Here’s the about her case video:

And here’s the story:

Synopsis of Maarit’s Interview

Disclaimer: This is a witness testimony of a military abductee Re-Ab, and contains disturbing material and is not recommended reading for those who cannot handle the reality of malevolent alien abductions or shadow government activities. I cannot vow to the absolute facts of all of this testimony nor all of Maarit’s opinions. This is offered as another piece of the puzzle exploring the milab issue and as an extension of the work of the late Dr. Karla Turner and Barbara Bartholic, as well as my own contribution. It is not meant to be fear based but as a “wake up call” testimony to acknowledge those who should not have to live lives of harassment, oppression and secrecy.

This interview is with a female milab-abductee from Scandinavia named Maarit. She chose to use a pseudonym to protect her anonymity. She contacted me in late 2010 to share her testimony of alien abductions and subsequent military abductions following her pregnancy with her son in 2005. I interviewed Maarit because she is one of a handful of very lucid abductees, who can recall a greater degree of her abduction related experiences without the use of hypnosis. Although she has neuroimmunological health issues related to multiple sclerosis, I believe her to be mentally intact and credible.  She is also highly psychic and can lucid dream— the ability to be conscious and aware during the dream state, which enabled her to regain greater degrees of awareness during her alien and military abductions. A large component of her military abductions involve being used as a guinea pig with colluding pharmaceutical-medical companies who work in conjunction with the shadow government on milabs. Maarit shares her understanding of how and why she is “genetically modified”—a hybrid if you will–and how this figures into her neurophysiologic and immunological issues with Multiple Sclerosis, and an Rh-negative blood type.

Maarit explains how her life and marriage have been completely orchestrated by her alien handlers who are primarily draconian, reptilian and military. She has observed many species of ETs in her experiences and recalls being in DUMBs (Deep Underground Military Bases) and a nuclear silo with dark winged, draconian entities. She discusses her understanding of the genetic and energetic-soul matrix, vibrational aspects of hybrids and the alien soul recycling technology. She had an experience similar to Ted Rice of Dr. Karla Turners Masquerade of Angels, involving having her consciousness transferred into a “black box” and placed into a cloned body.

Although hybrid issues are now a focal interest in current abduction research, she asserts the most important aspects we need to focus on is how aliens—specifically reptilians–can manipulate, orchestrate and interfere with our relationships. Maarit awakened to her experiences after more memories surfaced, which triggered the realization of malevolent and mind controlling elements in her abductions. The use of Virtual Reality (VRE) brain entrainment technology is done to control consciousness, and is hooked up once an abductee is implanted.  One of her screen memories installed by draconian entities involved seeing beatific, New Agey, dolphin scenes upon awakening from an abduction experience. Beneath this screen memory was an abduction in an underground base. She admitted to having previously promoted popular “benevolent ET experiences” on a Scandinavian radio talk show before becoming lucid to the reality of the deceptive, mind controlling nature of her abductions. Now, she is fighting back, regaining her lucidity and spiritual resilience. She wants us to know humans can fight back for their awareness and freedom. Awareness is the key to empowerment.


1. Tell me a bit about how you discovered you had ET experiences, and your initial beliefs about alien/abduction and contact? What shifted your beliefs about the true nature of ETs and your experiences, any particular incidents which “broke the programming” of what the more popular UFO groups and researchers were promoting?

Before we start, I would like to thank Eve Lorgen for her work, which bravely goes to the dark side of this alien phenomena. I contacted her while I was frustrated and tired. Her open heart and integrity as a researcher and therapist made a huge impact on me. I consider our intensive correspondence as a major turning point in my life. She offered her presence for a total stranger, not so many willing to do these days. In the UFO-field there are not so many researchers who are willing to step out of the comfort zone of contactee oriented happy UFO-scenarios. Only by realizing the alien manipulative agenda we can achieve autonomy for our consciousnesses as a human race.

First of all, I consider myself to be an abductee–being unwillingly used by aliens and military for several purposes. Because I have been manipulated, drugged and mind controlled by humans and aliens, I do not use the term contactee. In my experiences there is no reciprocal nuance to be observed as in cases of alleged contactee people. I do not consider myself to be special or chosen in any way. I don’t have any channeled information to offer. All I can offer is question after question.

When I refer to term shadow government/people, I mean globally operating companies related to medical warfare operatives as well as factions of military / intelligent groups. Which ones, I don’t know for certain.

I can divide my alien encounters in two different parts. One part of this alien encounter began before I was even born. I have conscious memories of that time when I was in another, subtle form of existence and forced unwillingly to manifest in this three-dimensional universe as we humans observe it now. I consider the essence of my spiritual being to be alien, per se. I remember how I was shown different parental alternatives to choose from. The connecting link between these human couples was some sort of DNA- structure. My consciousness moved into my infant human body just before labor and I was fully aware of these memories even when I was a baby. After a while the normal neurological adjusting begun and I saw myself as a “normal” child with heightened psychic abilities.

The second part of my “human” experience with alien encounters began in childhood at 4 years old, and I knew I was not alone. When I woke up, there was blood on my pillow and I knew “somebody” stuck something in to my nose. I constantly saw scary dreams and woke up in terror. These things happened during the time when I was 4-7 years old. But as funny as it sounds, during the childhood I do not have any clear memories of these beings that were terrorizing me or how they look liked. But when I saw a picture of a UFO, I knew “they” were the ones.

Another wave of consciously remembered encounters happened, as usual, during my teens. Even as a child I was fascinated by astronomy, nuclear physics, philosophical principles related to existence and ontology. I was more and more “humanized” as whole. I wanted to find the solution, the ultimate matrix for meta-consciousness and all that I could find at that time was the New-Age movement and the shallow answers it had to offer.

Even when I was fairly aware of being abducted at that time (16 -30 years old) that these encounters were not benevolent, I was mentally forced to interpret my experiences as such. The New-Age way to look these alien encounters during 80′s and 90′s was so full of subjective reasoning and pressure. Mostly because here in Scandinavia some the UFO-researchers are highly contactee oriented. And the material these “certain” new age-minded UFO-researchers produced was directly linked to their publishing business.

In Scandinavia we were not given proper options in which we could judge the characters of the alien encounters by ourselves. I was once even on the local radio telling (when I was still into the New Age perspective) about these lovely space brothers, which are here to lift our vibrations, because I did not want to be shut out from the community of friends I was related to during that period of time. At that time I was just one piece of this manipulative machinery, which was planned to misdirect people by giving them highly calculated answers to solve their nocturnal horrifying problems. And I did my job, but not with smiling face.

As I got older, the abductions began to be physically more real. I could remember things, which did not suit the concept of contactee based rhetoric. My ovum was harvested on regular basis and I saw constant marks like sudden bruises, straight cuts, triangular rashes, scoop marks, burned like areas in my ankles, needle marks on my forehead and nose with the upper layer of dermis removed on my body after these episodes. I could not lie to myself anymore about the nature of these encounters. They were malevolent, controlling and they affected my consciousness and memories in a suppressive manner. Not once was I given a straight answer by the abductors for the alien agenda.

At that time I found myself being alone. Suddenly after that conscious realization, of questioning the aliens motives as not being “good”, was when I was isolated mentally and socially via certain episodes in my life. I was carrying a secret no one publicly would respond to in the UFO-field here in Scandinavia. So I felt I was living a private hell in front of many ignorant eyes.

The shift from New-Age beliefs to more an objective state of mind was subtle but very solid and inevitable concerning my realization of the true nature of these alien abductions. The milab involvement however, began when I was pregnant 5 years ago, in 2005-6. At that time I had no knowledge of this milab scenario at all. I did not know what was going on because the UFO-researchers in Scandinavia neglect this subject and there is no open discussion about this military involvement at all in my country. We have only one New Age magazine, which promotes tarot-readers and lighthearted contactees and their supporters in UFO-community.

I just wondered about this sudden appearance of military and medical personnel during my abductions. The focal point of consciously realizing my milab connection was the precipitating incident, which “coincidentally” delayed my Multiple Sclerosis diagnosis 2 years ago. My diagnosis was not given in proper ways, because my qauda equina operation was initially delayed and there was a professional error made by a local doctor. The surgery left me with an untreated infection, which created a permanent inflammatory problem with the central nervous system. The unbelievable doctor’s behavior caused a huge amount of mental stress and a short episode of dissociation, which affected the way my brains functioned. This actually caused me to remember things I should not have. I became conscious in a way the shadow government would not want me to be.

In hindsight, I realize many of these major events and turning points of my life are produced and controlled by aliens. And this is the most important factor I’m going to pinpoint out later.


2. Why do you believe or have you been told by the aliens or military “handlers”, why they are using you in their experiments? Are you a hybrid or genetically modified by aliens?

The aliens have used me because I live in a genetically modified body. My physical existence offers an opportunity for the aliens to make genetic surveillance in a multigenerational way. When I say genetically modified, it is my understanding that this means an alteration of DNA so that the nervous system modified with alien DNA–and energetic body as well— can sustain the alien consciousness because only this kind of consciousness can make a hybrid body functional, per se. This is actually part of the soul recycling technology. When I say I am a hybrid I understand myself—my consciousness is something you refer to as draconian. I was obligated before birth to move into an altered body to fulfill my task. To perform that transition I had to choose the human parents too as long as the mother was a blood type RH negative factor. This immunological trait is a common feature among these so called, Draconians and their reproduction. But having an Rh-negative blood type doesn’t mean you are a hybrid, it’s just a necessary condition to carry on the biological technology. The genetic modification is very tied to CNS functions and immunological moderation. This alien genetic factor includes modification of consciousness aka vibrational aspects of soul/consciousness matrix as well. The soul matrix is a vibration like electricity in that it can be observed as tones of frequencies. The question of genetic alteration is not purely physical, as we understand. It includes vibrational factors as well. My understanding of draconian DNA is that it is basically inorganic, unlike the human DNA. The draconian body-DNA function needs radiation to sustain consciousness like humans need air to breathe. The draconian DNA structure is not a spiral alpha helix but a denser form of some inorganic and energetic matter, which could be described as a quadrangle. With this quadrangle the structures of energetic tones are organized to serve bodily functions. I believe this is why there have been procedures done to human DNA—balancing the functions and partitions of inorganic and organic matter within DNA. The fundamental building blocks for life are not quite what we have been told, apparently.

So, true hybrids have alien consciousness in an altered body via a genetic CNS modification. CNS modification is partly needed to handle the frequencies of alien consciousness with the energetic body. The alteration of CNS-genetics is done outside the womb during the impregnation by technology, which can hold and change the soul matrix via magnetic field. The modified embryo is then implanted inside the womb of the Rh negative female. The different kind of alien soul matrix revives the function of the hybrid body and altered CNS function. (All hybrids are psychic). So you may understand why the real hybrids are keeping the secret and silence. The various produced beings, through hybrid bodies, are altered outside the womb during the embryonic stage for other things as well, such as functioning in a different kind of environment, and they have higher tolerance for radiation as well. The radiation itself is not poison to some ET races at all. (EL-This was shared with me BEFORE the Japanese nuclear incident on 3/11/011 at Fukishima)

I have been used as an incubator for alien hybrid embryos. The Rh-negative factor is the key here. Many women abductees used in this way have the Rh- factor in their blood. The Rh- factor prevents the possible autoimmune reaction during the early stages of alien pregnancy.

“Normal” females are also producing human embryos for aliens. These embryos are partly grown and used as a biological protein source for Reptiods. Abducted humans—abductees—do not need genetic alteration of they are used for other biotechnological uses and consumption—for Reptiods. So frankly put, as food. These reptile beings are able to grow large amounts of biologically “alive” tissue. This tissue can be cloned to make manufactured grey beings as well. This kind of tissue cannot be cloned forever without degeneration. That’s why the aliens are abducting so many humans. All of us have to satisfy the need of food for a large alien civilization. It’s so simple. We are not on the top of the food chain. This is something we just have admit to ourselves.

Many abductees tell us about the baby presentations made by the aliens. The whole thing—in my opinion– is just meant to do some psychological bonding to prevent resistance of human beings. Nothing more. The babies presented, as more mature babies are probably human-alien hybrids made to use as servants later on.

My son is being abducted as well. He is genetically modified too. His birth was a miracle. We had to use ICSI-method  (in vitro fertilization) in order to have a vibrant embryo to be placed. During my pregnancy in alien encounters, I was introduced to my son two times. The body was small, his skin pale. He had huge blue eyes and only a small amount of hair. When he came to see me with this “Nordic” looking figure, his consciousness was maintained in a classic hybrid-like body. And just like mine, his awareness joined the genetically altered human body during my delivery. He has described that kind of memory to me. We have an ultra strong connection, and we communicate also by using pure feelings.

Military want all the “cookies” I can give them–my genetics, my psychic abilities, and there is medical research being done that offers benefits for both involved parties and their co-operation as well. And they have plugged my son in to their operations as well. This was the main reason I decided to share my story: to tell people to wake up and fight for their freedom. We have to understand that there are multiple participants with multiple agendas related to abductions/milab activity. And more and more, I believe, the two—medical shadow groups and military are linking together. It seems to me that human participants have to work for these alien beings in ever deeper levels than was previously imagined. This is one reason why I believe there is not going to be an open disclosure about the true nature of the alien encounters.  Some human factions are too deep into this mess. The disclosure would risk the economical/scientific benefits and power these groups have gained via alien connection and cooperation.

When a human is abducted for a first time, s/he is being implanted. The military has the needed technology to track the signals emitted by the implants of these new abductees. The implants insert themselves within the central nervous system, when the connection is made; there is a signal, which the military can pick up. So, all the alien abducted people are possible milab victims—hence—ReAbs, if they posses something that can be beneficial to the military. No one is safe and the MK ultra days are not over.  The military/shadow government has the identities of every single abductee in this world.


3. What kinds of medical issues have you experienced that you believe to be due to abductions?  Have you been mind controlled by them, how?

Aliens have done several physical procedures. They have taken bone marrow from my neck and hip with a long needle. They have collected ovum. They have put an implant in to my nostril. They have collected tissue samples from my arm and knee.

Psychologically they have erased my memories and installed fake ones. They have used what felt like electrical vibrations straight in to my frontal lobe to do mind control. One morning I found a puncture mark in the middle my forehead, after having strong feelings to not look in the mirror (suggestions by them to not look into the mirror), and when I saw the mark, I remembered how they put some kind of electric vibration into my brains somehow through that needle and I was told not to remember and not to talk. And then they forced me to look at images of the dolphins again from a screen-like device. I see the dolphins every time when my subconscious is trying to bring something to the surface. They have caused pure emotional horror and enjoyed the ride. (EL—I have nothing against dolphins and friendly higher intelligent species, it’s just their image is being projected in screen memories to pacify our minds into complicity.)

I have an autoimmune inflammation in my CNS, because the inflammation of peripheral nerves went straight to the CNS (following a surgery). The diagnosis is G 37.9, and still waiting to be confirmed as MS, the primary progressive form. The whole episode—with the delay of the operation and the inflammation going straight to the CNS—was, I believe, alien orchestrated and my body is now being used as a guinea big for medical pharmaceutical research done by some faction of the military/shadow government. Because my body is altered, I have degeneration in my pelvic and cervical area as well.

I have had a neuropsychological evaluation twice. I’m suffering from memory problems and visual-spatial problems as well. The findings refer to an organic nature of impairment. I cannot work because of my physical and neuropsychological condition. Some of these changes can be explained via MS, and some because of the mind control and the methods aliens and military use. There is no cure for this. I have been recommended for neuropsychological rehabilitation.

I have been told by Draconians that my body is genetically altered. My blood pressure is quite low and my average body temperature is somewhere between 35-35.5 degrees of Celsius. (37C = 98.6F, so it’s between 95.0- 96.8 F) My psychic abilities are far higher than average. I sense human emotions and thought forms as soon as I see a person. This is something I would like to get rid of, because it wears me out. I prefer solitude and vibrationally developed, disciplined emotions like gratitude etc. Unfortunately there are not so many people possessing these features. I believe I have also been used to test draconian weaponry modified for human military use because of my psychic abilities and vibrations. Some weapons can only be activated through psychic influence.


 4. Have you recognized any of the locations you have seen in your milab/abduction experiences such as DUMBS (Deep Underground Military Bases) or medical facilities? Have you recognized any human personnel you have seen in your “regular life” accidentally?

I have been in a DUMB several times that I can consciously remember. One place believe–merely my own speculation–is located somewhere in Canada or in the northern part of USA. The speculation is based only on visual observation of the nature. When I got out from underground I saw these huge trees I have seen on nature documentaries in my country. It was a mountain area, in the middle of the forest. And there was a railway entering in to the DUMB. The entrance was open and there was fence around the yard.

The other place was a nuclear silo, in a place were nuclear weapons were stored. These places could be one and the same, but somehow I doubt that.

I have seen the same medical personnel who treated me at the University hospital, department of Neurology during the process of my neurological diagnosis. There is one professor of clinical neuroimmunology and neurophysiology and one medical doctor of neurology who are using me in their medical research done for the shadow government. This medical research is dealing the use of nitro-oxide as a regulator in the immune response of the CNS. Nitro-oxide is under constant interest in pharmaceutical work. (Not to be confused with dental nitrous oxide) Applications can be used in cardiovascular and pulmonary diseases and in asthma as well. There are experiments made to use the asthma medication to relieve the symptoms of MS flares. So, the connection between my condition, these doctors and milab abduction is to understand and regulate the immune response in the human nervous system.

I believe I’m under interest because of my genetic differences too. So I’m serving multiple purposes, which I probably even don’t know about. One factor in my opinion is their interest in understanding how to connect together different types of neurological tissues without creating the usual degenerative autoimmune reaction. As one can understand, the application of this information is huge. One can do the digging by them selves by Googling nitro-oxide and CNS. It is all there.

The professor I saw in a DUMB is closely connected to a major pharmaceutical company. The same company is developing a drug for narcolepsy as well and the nitro-oxide is playing an important role once again. I believe I’m used to test the narcotic influence of different medicines as well. The medical researcher I’m talking about is doing research on the neurophysiological aspects of dreams as well.

I also had one very important condition they needed in their study. I did not have plaques in my brain or spinal cord. These kinds of findings are implications of the primary progressive form of MS. All the people in my area suffering from this type of illness are being sent to these specific doctors for evaluation. Surprisingly. In this specific University hospital there is a highly respected research group doing studies about the nitro-oxide finding as an indicator of brain atrophy in primary progressive MS. This specific university hospital and some personnel of this research group have been doing medical research and evaluation for the military people too. So there is a huge network going on, not only nationally but globally too. And the unfortunate ones (milabs) are being plugged in:

Nitro-oxide NO is under constant interest in pharmaceutical work. In 1998 doctors Furchgott, Ignarro and Murad were given a Nobel Prize for their research work related to NO: http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/1998/press.html

Nitric oxide plays a role in immune response as well and there is constant research being done on this subject. http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~jr9h-szk/juku/juku3.pdf

The applications for NO are drugs developed and under development for neurological diseases as well like Frampidrine for walking difficulties and muscle weakness for people suffering neurological diseases.


Before this accident I was not interested in pharmacology in any level. I only had one conscious memory of the nurse who came to me when I was sitting on the research table,  in a DUMB probably. She had a needle and she injected some liquid in to my right knee. “This is nitrixide (that’s what I first remembered)” she said. “You should not make such a fuss about things.” After that I saw the same medical researcher entering the room. That’s all I remember. And all I needed to remember to start to do my own checking out. I have taken photos from my knees after the nitro-oxide shots as well.

So, it’s no wonder these events were manipulated to the point were the delayed operation caused an autoimmune response in my CNS. I was a good catch. And this is only the tip of the iceberg from the work of this hidden network. I’m sure of it. But to go deeper in to this could be a story of it’s own.


 5. What kinds of aliens are primarily working on your case? Can you describe their basic jobs and goals?

Primarily Reptiods, greys and other aliens like mantis-creatures, because they are working under draconian control. Before I continue, I have to clarify the position of reptiles and Draconians in order to understand what is going on and by whom.

Draconians do not conduct abductions per se as the interdimensional reptiles are doing, even they are occasionally seen in the UFO. Dracionians control the reptilian race and their behavior and the reptiles are servants for the Draconians. Draconians need the hybrid bodies to be used as containers for consciousness, because only a vibrant soul-matrix can reinforce manufactured hybrid bodies. There are a lot of species co-working in these scenarios, so it’s difficult to define what kind of role the different ET creatures are playing from our point of view. Positive, neutral or negative.

When I generally speak about hybrids, I don’t know whether they are human-reptilian, human-Draconian, or human-some other race/races. And the other abductees and UFO-researchers don’t know that for sure either. So pinpointing hybrids only as a reptilian human origin we can do crucial damage for the hybrid rhetoric as a whole.

Reptiods are servants for the draconian race. There are not so many Draco’s on Earth, physically present. I have seen them only working in this particular nuclear silo. Reptiods are allowed to use humans as a resource and do their thing as long as they don’t disobey the draconian administration. By using hybrids, Draconians can produce workers, biological material etc., (who knows) for their use. Reptilians do the needed work. They abduct people and hybrids for the use of cloning and further production. They have advanced technological development to do that and they are allowed to use humans for their own purposes as well, primarily for nutrition and entertainment. By entertainment I mean sexual activities with humans. These sexual behaviors have malevolent, sadomasochistic features.

In other words, there is a vast biological industrial activity going on where humans are being used as a source for biological and psychological–emotional material. The basic job for Reptiod-beings is to survive and carry their own cultural-genetic traits. This is something we have to understand. They do what they do because they are what they are– highly intelligent beings capable of remarkable things.

We have to step out of the victimized state of mind and get rid of the fear. This is the only way to get the respect of these creatures and develop a communication of some sort. Whining and unnecessary complaining are the dead end, then we start to dig our own psychological and physical grave for sure. Objectivity and courage is needed even to try to understand a different kind of intelligence and technology. This is something we are not able to do. The researchers who only feed the fear instead of objectivity are no better than the New Age people who are proclaiming easy ascension and waiting for spiritual enlightenment–even while being roasted in the oven.

I believe these Reptiod creatures are the main problems and bullies for humans. And these Reptiods do shape shift and can take the form of these so-called Nordics as well. Draconians are far more advanced than humans are capable of even understanding. I have consciously seen dark brown Draconians with wings and hoofs. They are a highly technically advanced, warrior-like race with great disciplined actions. Draconians are also philosophical creatures and can be very fearless if needed. Females are superior to male. They consider themselves to be more sophisticated than humans. Because they are ranked quite high in hierarchy of different races, we rarely see them like we see the most highly ranked bosses in our companies. They mingle with their own-kind of company.

I remember being in a silo barefoot and this male draconian came to me and sent me a mental thought that he finds the human feet very big and repulsive. I found it funny, because during that episode I could not even understand where I was. Their goal is to continue their lives as a race as well. Just like we humans do.

It is odd but very often, in the milab ops scenarios we are not allowed to wear shoes, and our clothes may be lying in one place, later to be put on, but we never have our shoes. It’s like we are not allowed to wear them. In my opinion there are couple of reasons why milabs remember being without their shoes or clothes. One reason is the fact, that some milabs are involved with research for example, related to radiation and they are being decontaminated after testing. This can partly explain the memories of showers and locker rooms. The other reasons why some milabs are not wearing shoes are the satanic rituals -performed in DUMB – and their participation in these rituals under mind control. Being without shoes is serving ritual necessities and psychological manipulation as well. Remember the Nazi concentration camps?

Reptiods are divided into interdimensional beings and some creatures that live under the surface of earth. These creatures live in caverns and have red eyes and dark brown skin. They eat meat too. Interdimensional Reptiods can shape shift and are predator-natured.

I have observed a conflict between the Draconians and some Reptiod party/faction. It’s about power. There was a military faction assisting–willingly or unwillingly—I’m not sure—and these specific Reptiod groups are trying to overcome the draconian leadership, because the Draconians are in charge of some nuclear military DUMBS too. If this Reptiod rebellion is proceeding I’m feeling worried because this would mean the total loss of control made by Dracionians. Reptiods would be allowed to mess around and even the shadow government would not be safe. If considering this as a chess game, the situation is not pleasant from the human point of view. But this is merely my speculation.

I saw the power struggle personally during an abduction. The draconian entity came to stop the Reptiods and prevented them from using me somehow. This has happened two times. So I guess I have something to offer to these Draconians and shadow government and that’s why they keep an eye on me.

The Reptiods have expressed very violent activities towards me and some other abductees I have seen on the UFO like beating, etc. I believe they are having a hard time trying to suppress their basic need to kill. And that’s why some abductees are reporting very disturbing violent abductions and treatment.

The degeneration of personality traits and grappling for power applies to other species as well. By this degeneration I mean the need to produce unnecessary suffering while enjoying it.

There is also an original grey-race, per se. They are workers for these reptilian entities. And there are a huge amount of manufactured grey look-alike beings used for physical labor. They are being manufactured inside a DUMB and some are being transported to other locations.


6. Many milabs and now the popularized “supersoldiers” have described being used as operatives under mind control physically across the globe and even off world. They also describe virtual reality experiences, a term popularized by the late Dr. Karla Turner. Can you tell me if you can tell the difference between a true physical abduction, and one that is virtual reality? 

Yes. But this is only my experience. In my case true physical abductions leave marks. Something is done to my physical body. Sometimes there can be menstrual irregularities and abdominal pain, bruises, needle marks, scars etc. The consciousness is totally controlled during these episodes. I can remember flashes of 1-10 seconds. Then I remember being shut down. My field of observation is narrowed. I can see sometimes see clearly tiny areas at one time, like clear small windows of clarity in a limited field of vision. Sometimes I can feel being moved and pushed even when I’m unable to open my eyes or when I’m in a dream like state. In physical abductions I get more of a drugged feeling and less clear memory, and lots of blank spots in-between. Most of the time these memories-whether physical or virtual reality– are very hard to separate because of the consciousness control.

Nowadays military don’t walk in to your house anymore. Trust me. They can open a time/space portal and pick you up so that you don’t even notice.

The main objective for these aliens is not to be noticed. They prefer to stay in the shadows, because otherwise humans could start to do preventative actions to stop the abductions by strengthening their lucidity, using and developing proper technology for resistance. So we are not dealing with gods. We are dealing with mortal entities.

In the virtual reality experiences, it is as real as watching a movie or living an everyday life, with no observable limitations. With lucidity, realizing you are dreaming–you can wake up from this scenario. In VRE there is always some aspect of “strangeness” involved if one is able to recognize this. By this I mean for an example, a different kind of phone you have never seen before, strangers, furniture etc. By recognizing these, you can achieve lucidity and wake up in your bed. But this is hard, because the VRE is produced in your brains by using methods like signals and electrical stimulation, which affects your neural and muscular function as well. This makes the scenario seem even more real. And physical/mental adjustment is being done under VRE situations. This makes the scenario seem even more real. And physical/mental adjustment is being done under VRE situations. By this I mean psychological conditioning on how to act or control oneself during RV-operations, behavioral modification on how to handle fear, tolerate pain etc. True physiological modification, implanting is being done either in a DUMB or in a UFO. Reptiods use VRE for harvesting emotions too. This happens by causing horrifying VRE experiences for abductees. The military and aliens as well can produce VRE by sending signals to implants. Military can change these induced brainwaves into images and sounds on a screen. Aliens don’t need that kind of technology, because they sense these telepathically.

I have been able to observe the exact moment, when I’m being activated for the use. This happens when I’m going to sleep. Just when my brainwaves are starting to change for a sleep mode, I see a flash of bright light in my “minds” eye, even with eyes shut. Usually the scene “in my eyes” change and I get an impression of an open space in front of my closed eyes. I can also see from what kind of interior I’m been plugged into. So there is a radar-like computer network through which abductees can be controlled. There is also portable equipment that have antenna, which can send the VRE signals too. And some factions of the perpetrators are using this for their own purposes. I believe the connection can function in two ways: Once the abductee is able to use heightened psychic capacity and lucidity, one can attain information from the other party by doing remote viewing. I have been able to this once and then I saw the warehouse from where the signal was sent.

One has to understand that we are dealing with high technology, which most people don’t know– even the moderate applications can be seen in a use in everyday life. For example, one “official” branch of this technology is being introduced to people as different kinds of computer related appliance for handicapped people. One can do their one research on this subject if interested.


7. Have you ever been tasked by your milab controllers to do remote viewing? If so, how is this experience compared to the entrained “VRE” scenarios?

Yes I have. I have been sent to observe some alien creatures (draconian related) several times. I have also been used for more mundane issues like checking some locks or paper documents. These were written in English–that I could remember. Remote viewing is produced either by physical abuse (and splitting of consciousness) or by using the VRE related technology. Consciousness can be separated and moved by using some sort of electrical vibration. I can tell the difference between the RV from VRE by observing the visual scene I’m seeing. In RV my vision is somehow truly controlled. It feels to me, like I’m watching the environment through a bottle. The vision is somehow twisted and distorted. I see only the things I’m told to observe. I can do some conscious reasoning during these episodes as well. Sometimes there can be unwanted reaction and the RV situation is slipping into a spontaneous out-of-the-body experience. When this happens, I hear a buzzing sound in my ears and I have problems controlling the movements of my energy body. I can slip through the walls recklessly until I’m being drawn back to my body. Also, in RV there is seldom any physical sensations, pain etc., present. Naturally. So only by lucidity and deep reflection one can discern these different kinds of phenomena. Very often, remote viewing and virtual reality they are also linked together.


8. What do you think is going on with the hybrid issue as popularized by Dr. David Jacobs in his alien abduction case histories? Have you seen alien-human hybrids in your experiences? What do you believe is their real function?

When we are talking about the hybrid-issue, we have to understand that as a human race we don’t really have the complete picture of this issue. There are not as many genetically different alien related hybrids on earth as the some researchers are stating. That’s for sure. To say alien hybrids are all malevolent, suffering from severe personal disorders is as narrow-minded approach as New Agers have, when saying that alien agenda is good and hybrids are a way to save humankind. Nonsense.

Based on what I have experienced, true alien hybrids are here to serve the surveillance of the genetic study made by the alien race. Hybrids are not to meant to infiltrate into human society to fulfill some hidden purposes of draconians or reptiles. This is something one has to understand. Hybrids are used just to produce more hybrids for the use of draconians. Hybrids are used like machines in draconian bioindustry. We have no knowledge why this alteration is being made. Our social or emotional life per se is not under interest of any kind. Hybrids of the more alien types I mentioned live their lives in different societies like other people do. When I speak about hybrids I consider them to be draconian/alien consciousnesses in an altered human body. But I’m sure that reptoids have their own breeding program going on which is something draconians consider not suitable behavior–rebellion. So yes, there are reptilian hybrids–reptilian consciousnesses in human altered bodies. And then there are genetic mixtures of many other races as well -made by dracos, which are not connected to human race at all.

According to my understanding and memories we cannot define a hybrid just by observing the differences of the DNA- structures between hybrids and humans because some of the changes are energetic in nature as I said before.

The major difference is the heightened psychic ability compared to other human beings. When I say I consider my self to be alien-hybrid, aka-a genetically modified human with alien soul matrix consciousness, I know there should be a genealogist to confirm my statement to make this official proof. It is not even important, to me because I have to live an ordinary every day life anyway (and of course deal with the constant interference in my life.) I do not see myself mean or malevolent in any way. Neither is my son. But people who are acting like judges, I consider to be dangerous. There is no room for hypocrisy.

Humans manipulate, torture, neglect and abuse their kind in similar ways that these Reptiods are doing to achieve their own agenda. Wake up time. Instead of this, we should concentrate on real issues, which are the alien manipulation through their hive-like almost organic influence and the possessions they can take over certain individuals. These things have nothing to with hybrids per se, like the ones I’ve defined. There can also be observed people with low vibrations and lack of integrity acting and playing with abductees. This has nothing to do with hybrids as well and the hybrid issue is something I consider to be less important in the field of abduction research. Wrong conclusions only create unnecessary fear.

Only by seeing the overall impact of this alien manipulation we can start to live our own lives in a more compassionate way. We need to find the true humanity of our own kind and not be willing to be an amusement for them to give them the vibes—or emotional reactions that the Reptiods like.

Another thing we have to wake up to understand is that the alien modification with hybrids (aka- genetically modified human abductees) starts before physical manifestation such as in vitro before birth or while in the womb and is carried on constantly in hybrid’s lives. This means one can observe certain patterns in hybrids and abductees.

  1. The abductors are creating an environment were the hybrid and/or abductee is often emotionally and socially isolated either geographically or by parents. This provides them convenient ground to influence the life patterns of the hybrid and repress possible interference made by other human beings. Experimental control.
  2. They often set up a love affair to mate the hybrid or abductee with a suitable candidate. Through this selected person, aliens can control the action of a hybrid.(aka- genetically modified human-abductee) This usually means that true hybrids are being kept “hidden” by preventing them from having a major position in modern society. This can be made by disrupting and orchestrating their education, relationships and health as was done in my case. So as one can understand, there is no glory to be had in this hybrid issue. There is only suffering if these patterns are not revealed and worked through, so as to gain personal and social integration of a hybrid person. (Secrecy and isolation harms us)

Many of these aspects apply to abductees as well and can be produced by the shadow military government people too.

I have seen so called “hybrids”(the more alien ones only seen or existing on ships, etc.) during my abductions. They were merely showing me where to go etc. I had no conversation with them that I could consciously remember. These beings were very short and gave me an impression of physical density of some sort. In the room I saw one of them was having modified air pressure given to them. I could imagine one can experience this by diving deep. I have also seen small horse looking, white creatures. They were kept in containers. And the hybrids are working to collect liquid from the ligaments of these creatures.

In order to understand the modern hybrid discussion, we need to accept the fact that most information is given by the abductees who are merely reporting the facts aliens want and allow them to see and “remember”. And certain researchers are adding water to the mill by taking these fragment memories to form a theory. This, in my opinion is how the distortion is made and facts are neglected. We simply don’t know what kind of genetic experiments are being done and by whom.


9. Have you observed the alien possession of a human situation such as the term “reptilian hosting” being used?

Yes I have. I did not know the name for this subject until recently. Before going deeper into this issue I have to tell that Eve Lorgen has gone straight in to the heart of this alien discussion. Really. She has openly formed a view of alien manipulation, which I find to be true in my life. After I realized that, I was able to form some kind of synthesis made from my life. I did not know the idea or concept of ALIEN LOVE BITE until recently, but these three little words changed my life and showed me the way to self realization and more awareness to fight for autonomy in my life. Alien hosting does happen.

Regardless of that, I always subconsciously knew this kind of phenomenon was happening in my life. By hosting I refer to a person who is under direct influence of a Reptiod being mainly through mind control. Sometimes the reptile’s spirit can enter a person’s body and cause some changes in the physical appearance of the hosted person as well. Facial features can change, their voice etc. These changes can be seen and often are observed even consciously. But mostly they are neglected because the other partner or persons close to them don’t understand what is going on. I believe many hosted people are considered to suffer from psychiatric diseases like personality disorders, (Like narcissistic, sociopath-EL) psychotic behavior even the problems have different etiology than in normal F-code (DSM) diagnosis. In my opinion the hosting occurs within the orchestrated relationships.

It is done if there is a need from the reptiles to cause immediate influence on the hybrid’s/abductees’ life during certain periods of time like to have the other partner feeling emotions such as fear and abandonment. Possession occurs when the reptilian being itself wants to experience directly emotions and physical stimulus through a hybrids/abductees body. (EL—it can occur with non-abductees too)

The other term closely connected to hosting is the reptilian hive-mind. The term hive-mind in my understanding is the needed reptilian matrix or created context in hybrid’s lives. By this I mean that the reptiles are capable of creating a reality matrix like a Nintendo game. Reality matrix contains certain amount of freedom for abductee or hybrid to make decisions in their life but nevertheless, the outcome is what the reptiles want it to be. By using this hive mind manipulation many people can be included in the matrix to act as wanted for the needed result.

The reptilian hive-mind is being activated as a lure like episode often among multiple needed participants to create the needed situations into hybrids or abductees lives. This has happened to me many times in my life and during these situations I felt quite powerless to change the course of the events I could already know was going to happen.

The Hive mind, or created reality matrix, is usually deactivated once the needed result is gained. For example, marriage–in my case–and the delayed surgery and so on. (EL-This can extend to sabotaged media efforts to have guests on to tell their stories, where certain aspects of the alien agenda are never allowed to be spoken in a large way in the public domain.)

After the deactivation of the “hive mind” the people involved often seem to wake up somehow. They may feel shame about what they have done and don’t seem to understand how they could not have seen the results of their behavior. In this way the reptilians can enjoy the caused misery two times, once with hybrid or abductee and secondly with the awakened manipulated participants—who, by the way, are non-abductees and ARE VERY MUCH AFFECTED BY THIS TOO—and are less aware than the abductees themselves are. —EL)

I could tell you examples of people who are under hosting or shape shifting reptiles per se in my opinion, but I’d rather not. If I would start to pinpoint people I would not act any better than people who infer all the hybrids are one bunch of sociopathic monsters. Instead I would encourage people to judge others based on their actions, like Jesus was doing. Actions reveal the color of ones heart. Not the words or appearance.

My husband was under reptilian hosting and hive-mind influence when we met almost 20 years ago. Without going in to specific details the pattern was clearly seen. He was compulsive, neglectful, aggressive and he constantly created disturbance in my life during the key points in my life, I considered that were critical for my work. I did lot of work with confronting him to pull him out of the lure. The lure—being the reptilian hive mind that was trying to control his behavior and thoughts. And I did a good job. Today I have great husband and we work as a team.

In the early years of our relationship, he was an abductee too. There were also very intense times of paranormal activity too. I’m quite aware that aliens and the shadow government people manipulate him on regular basis. By this I mean that subconsciously he is monitoring my behavior. (aka– a handler as a sleeper agent—EL) Even while writing this, he is quite restless. He cannot concentrate to anything etc. But the situation is under control, because I know what is going on. And he has begun to recognize his own behavior too. I can sense he is worried because he is aware of my disclosure and the spooky calls and that at the same time he is under the command too. Not easy part to play for him.

Now I’m being played off the field by the reptiles and the hive-mind synchronized events. I live in the middle of the forest on a pension disability I cannot move long distances and my memory is playing tricks on me. They did a great job!

Also at the same time I can sense a relief. I feel something is moving away from my life. And I begin to see life differently, being more present. The reptilians and shadow government have changed their tactics. After such a long period of negativity good “accidents” have started happen. I’m holding my breath. I know these synchronized events are manipulated as the previous years of my life, but I can handle that by not being emotionally too attached with these events. Even though I know I cannot ever really be free from this mess, there is a pause from negative tactics and I have waited for that. So this whole thing means that “we” are having negotiations of my limited freedom. I’m being given threats on my life in VRE and at the same time I’m being given candies as well.

As one can understand, the issue of alien manipulated relationships and events are in my opinion, much more important than an isolated study of abduction experiences. Only by seeing a bigger alien picture can we understand the overall impact aliens have in our lives. They own us. They control us. And this happens in ordinary relationships all over the world. (EL—This is what Barbara Bartholic and myself have believed for years)


10. Have you ever seen or observed the human clones in your experiences?

Yes I have. In a DUMB, I have seen my clone. Somehow it was not properly made. The tissues looked puffy. This creature could barely walk and it was wobbling. Movements were very clumsy and the scenario reminded me of the Frankenstein’s story. Somehow I believe human participants made this clone.  In UFO craft I have consciously seen male clones, lots of them, lying on the tables. I saw this accidentally when a hybrid creature was showing me the way to somewhere. I think this was not meant for my eyes to observe, but accidents do happen.

I strongly believe that almost 13 years ago, my original body was killed and used somehow. My consciousness was put in to cloned body. (This happened to Ted Rice and was elaborated on in the late Dr. Karla Turner’s Masquerade of Angels book–EL) At that time I felt physically different and looked younger. My friend also told me that I looked different. But I have no conscious memories of this. Only my instinct. The procedure was conducted after very sadomasochistic events by the Reptiods and humans, which I do not want to go into specific detail. But the process of soul recycling (after being born into a body) begins after abductees are given some sort of liquid to drink. I had to drink it as well as a couple I had not seen before. What happened to them, I don’t know. I also experienced being killed (in a ritualized fashion) a second time in the autumn 2010, a similar procedure and I have conscious memories of that incident.

I was spontaneously awakened in the 2010 “storage in a black box” procedure, where the pure consciousness, essence of me was temporarily kept. I know these issues are frightening and sound psychotic. Only a very strong person is able to go deeply in to these disturbing experiences without being shocked. The denial of these soul-recycling procedures is natural for humans and I can understand that clearly. I’m telling this, because the facts and witness testimonies cannot be ignored forever. Behind the surface there are more things happening than friendly discussions with the space brothers.

I can give you one thought to contemplate: What the term karma is given to people as a justifier for their memories of previous lives, which they lived because their consciousnesses had been recycled by the aliens may not be because of the karmic law. In my opinion we don’t know what is the natural process of consciousness to transform or move forward. We only know that we have been told to behave or otherwise we could wake up as pigs. We are being told that we remember past live because of reincarnation, not because someone has reincarnated us. There is a huge difference here and I believe the technology for doing this is being kept hidden and it would be very precious for humanity if they don’t already have it.


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MILABS And Reptilians

Just refreshing some info about reptoid aliens and such:


Here at the Reptoids Research Center, many years have been spent searching for reptile based life forms that are rumored  to have evolved a high degree of intelligence and that are mistakenly being called “Aliens” or “Extraterrestrials (E.T.’s)” by their human neighbors. Collectively, these animal-beings are called Reptoids. Hence, Reptoids.com.

“Aliens are beings coming from Earth?” Yes, it’s looking to be a more reasonable answer than those offered by previous generations.

Consider this fact: While scientists are proud of their cataloging approximately two and a half million life forms, they reservedly estimate the total number of life forms to be approximately between 100 million and 150 million! That means that our scientists have only encountered about three percent of all the terrestrial life with which we share this planet.

Obviously, there’s a lot of animal life out there yet to be discovered, some of which might be too intelligent to have direct contact with humanity!

Furthermore, if unknown animal life such as Reptoids developed intelligence before humanity, which may be the case, then it leaves little doubt as to who or what may have been dominating our night and day time skies for hundreds if not thousands of years.

What do Reptoids look like?

Reptoid physical forms appear to be as varied as those of humans and even more so. They share certain physical attributes such as a humanoid form (one head, two arms, two legs etc.) and some, but not all, of the following:

Beaded or scaled skin like a lizard or serpent. The scales (scutes) are larger on broad areas such as the back and chest and the hands, face and other malleable areas of the body have small scales that allow finer flexing.

A slightly large, slightly back sloping cranium (sometimes appearing conical) with two bony ridges that begin near the brow region of the forehead and extend backwards.

Two slit or almond shaped eyes with either vertical or circular pupils (Vertical indicates adaptation to low light environments, circular to near surface or lighted environments.)

Two ears (small holes,) one on each side of their heads that may or may not be covered by thin scales.

A flat and wide nose with a very little bridge area in between.

Lipless mouths with varying dentition.

Very muscular and trim torso with strong arms and legs.

Four to 6 digits of each hand covered by fine scales.

Tails that have been seen to be as long as four feet to as small as 18 inches. Some do not have tails at all, only a small bump at the base of the spine.

For a more detailed account of their physical description with illustrations, click here


Where do Reptoids live?

IN EARTH (and beyond) in…..

Geologically Remote Areas
Scientists usually find new species of mammals and reptiles in geologically remote areas such as forest canopies, cliff overhangs, caves, caverns, underground rivers, deep ocean volcanic vents and sub glacial geothermal pockets.

Small, geologically remote ecosystems usually contain animal life forms that are strangely unique. This is because the animals’ ancestors had somehow been separated from their larger parent species population (disasters etc.,) resulting in a sharp reduction of genetic averages within the surviving group. When this happens, the surviving groups evolution accelerates and morphological adaptations (formed to the stresses of their surrounding environment) begin to occur in fewer generations. Eventually, enough time passes, they become a distinct species of their own.

The more unique and stable the ecosystem and the more remote it is, the greater the chance there is for finding new species of animals.

Eyewitness encounters also take place along the fringes of society where tree lines meet rural communities and where there are densely thicketed habitats such as swamps and isolated lakes.

Areas Favoring Specific Geological Formations
Reptoids are suspected of living in geologically remote areas where Gravity Anomaly Maps (inverse topographical  maps) indicate the presence of empty underground space. There appears to be a  higher than normal percentage of reptoid sightings in places containing ancient volcanic ‘Tuffa’ (soft volcanic ash beds,) limestone, karst and sandstone (Missouri, Arkansas, Arizona, California etc.)

Since vertical separation is also a factor when considering geological “remoteness,” there stands a chance that some of surface humanities concentrated populations may overlap deep subsurface cryptid (reptoid) populations (we may have entire communities of old and young right under our very feet!)

Near Their Antarctic Origins
Antarctica or Polar Gondwana appears to be the location where the intelligent saurian root may have evolved for reasons addressed at length on this site.

Besides the paleontological evidence directing our attention to Antarctica, many intriguing historical facts point towards the icy, mountainous continent as a place of great mystery and unusual activities.

How ancient sea maps show inland Antarctica, indicating early exploration during ice free conditions. Why weren’t these maps widely distributed throughout the mercator (mapmaking) world? What’s there?

That in 1838 the U.S. Congress funded a naval expedition that was to travel towards the north pole in an effort to find a passage into the earth where they were instructed to established relations with an Inner-Earth culture. (Antarctica was also suspected of having an entrance into the Earth at the time.)

That the Nazi leaderships searched for their “Sky Gods” in Antarctica and the in areas near the north pole (remember, Sweden is where numerous cigar-ship sightings occurred during the war;) also interesting was the Nazi decision to have the post WWII leadership relocated to Argentina, a nation of close proximity to Antarctica.

How in 1947 admiral Richard Byrd made several flights over Antarctica (operation “High Jump”) and afterwards said that he’d like to see “….that land beyond on the Pole. That area beyond the pole is the center of a great unknown.’ Since the pole has always been considered the relative center point of uncharted Antarctica, this strange, ambiguous statement about some other central location has long been considered a cryptic message to the mainstream public. (Many people believe that Byrd was making a reference to the pre-existing rumor that there was either a naturally hollowed out ice-cavern city somewhere in the interior of Antarctica or a circular entrance into the hollow interior of Earth. This mysterious central core society is said to be comprised of representatives from numerous Earth and ET cultures).

That Antarctica is the first land mass in history that all nations have agreed unanimously to keep completely neutral and free of claimed ownership. (International cooperation is the rule and not the exception in Antarctica.)

Obviously there’s been a lot of mysteries surrounding Antarctica and its over the years. If the Hollow Earth theory is ever found to be fact, then it is entirely possible that intelligent beings such as Reptoids have been there investigating it too.

Dale Russell (Visiting Professor, Department of Marine, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences and Senior Curator of Paleontology, North Carolina State Museum of Natural Sciences) once published a professional “Thought Experiment” in which he projected what the dinosaurs may have possibly evolved into if they had survived the, so called “extinction event” that took place 65 million years ago. Using the known morphology of the Troodon dinosaur, the image that he arrived at is identical to that which has been recorded through history by the ancients (on rocks) and modern UFO eyewitnesses and contactees. This is a startling revelation!

We also know now that some of the dinosaurs did, in fact survive and their descendants became avians or BIRDS!

Birds are morphologically diversified bipedal, saurian descendants (coelurosaurs) whose scales transformed into hair follicles over millions of years, that learned to fly and to eventually demonstrate rudimentary intelligence by mimicking other animals attempts to communicate. Other than mankind, what other animal has come as close to reproducing human communication?

If one group of dinosaurs could have survived and evolved into animals that attempt to reproduce human speech, then it stands to reason that another group of dinosaurs may have also survived the extinction event 65 millions years ago and also developed a certain degree of intelligence and learned unique communication skills.

The “Thought Experiment” that Dale Russell formulated, demonstrating how the some of the dinosaurs were becoming more human-like,  is a road sign in evolutionary thinking. It shows us that our previously considered human form is not as unique as we previously thought.

If the human form is a clear expression of a physical trend shared with the dinosaurs, it’s possible that that same genetic trend or course may have extended itself  into the brain and it’s destiny towards intelligence. And, if humans became intelligent somewhat recently in geologic time,  we then we can only imagine how intelligent the dinosaur’s descendants might be now if they had millions of year to get a ‘head’ start in developing their species.


And here are couple of James Bartley videos: